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Old 10-01-06, 01:21   #1
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car cancer(rust)

jus wanna know if its real hard to cut out the rust in the boot gutter under the rubber,and weld a plate in there??and what about the windscreens?every1 just bogs them up aye?but i would rather not....any ideas would be appreciated....
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Old 10-01-06, 06:27   #2
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mate of mine cut the guter thing out and fiber glased it up, and the windscreen bloke just bogged my windscreen in litterley
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Old 10-01-06, 09:52   #3
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I found a place which sells that panel under the windscreen, so im getting the whole panel replaced, rust wont come back for a while.....
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Old 10-01-06, 10:02   #4
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wood how much is that setting you back? I need to do that to my front windscreen just not sure on the pricing.
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Old 12-01-06, 11:47   #5
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wood 22 how much is that gonna cost u?i didnt know its a panel...it looks like a part of the body to me
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Old 12-01-06, 13:29   #6
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As long as my Calais doesn't fall apart in the time I have it, I couldn't care less about the rust. Bog on.
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Old 12-01-06, 16:52   #7
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Apparantly this place sells the panel and its joined to look like 1 piece. Its getting done thru a mate, who gonna respray half the car and "cure all cancer" and i probably wont get much change from a grand. I think the panel was something like 45 bucks, but dont quote me on that, im not sure.
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Old 12-01-06, 18:02   #8
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The windscreen sills are welded in, not bolted like some other panels. The old sill is cut out and the new one welded in its place.
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Old 12-01-06, 22:22   #9
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wats the go with the front windscreen ive got abit of cancer in there... anyideas ???
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Old 13-01-06, 00:10   #10
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the sills can be brought from rarespares....i just purchased one and have grinded the old rusted out one and am waiting on the other one getting welded in...it set me back $133 but i believe is wel worth it and better then bog etc. have a look on http://www.rarespares.net.au in the vb-vl section i think its under rust repair then the name of the panel. the price on the website is more expensive then i paid i know i went into the shop ad they said $133 so i didnt complain. if u guys want ill take some pics of it.
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Old 13-01-06, 00:29   #11
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Its not that easy repairing that ****. People put bog over it but its only a matter of time when it comes back up through the bog.

Its probobly best if the panel gets chopped out and you weld a new panel back on.If you Chop the seal and put a metal plate back on youll have fun sculpturing the filler i reckon.

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Old 13-01-06, 00:50   #12
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wood 22 how much is that gonna cost u?i didnt know its a panel...it looks like a part of the body to me
Im pretty certain its apart of the Body too. I cant picture it being a panel
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Old 13-01-06, 11:56   #13
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the sills can be brought from rarespares....i just purchased one and have grinded the old rusted out one and am waiting on the other one getting welded in...it set me back $133 but i believe is wel worth it and better then bog etc. have a look on http://www.rarespares.net.au in the vb-vl section i think its under rust repair then the name of the panel. the price on the website is more expensive then i paid i know i went into the shop ad they said $133 so i didnt complain. if u guys want ill take some pics of it.

hey, if u wouldnt mind taking some pictures of it would love to see the work.. thanks
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Old 13-01-06, 17:33   #14
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Are the sills new? $133 is worth it if the sills are new..
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Old 13-01-06, 20:19   #15
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If the rust in the boot isn't too bad yet, get some grease and lube the affected areas up and that should take care of it for quite a while to come yet. I've got quite a bit of rust forming in the floor of the boot under the carpet. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that, maybe the grease trick, maybe I'll take a leaf out of dad's book and use fish oil (which I REALLY don't want to do, coz it stinks beyond the stench of anything else!)
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Old 13-01-06, 23:50   #16
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hey, wat about in the front where theres rust in the water catch just under the windscreen... whats the best option there ?? thanks
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Old 16-01-06, 15:09   #17
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you can do the same thing to the front sill as well. it isnt actually a panel but a part of the percel shelf but the rust repair panel is shaped to allowed you to cut out the outer part of the shelf and weld a new one in. mine is in the process of getting welded in i will take come pics when its finished but not painted and then after when the painting is complete. its not a straight panel replacement but is well worth it if you can be bothered. me and a mate drilled out the welds for the bottom of the rear windscreen then grinded out the rest and my next door neighbour is a welder and is going to weld the new one in for me.
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Old 16-01-06, 15:12   #18
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and yes the sills are brand new....mine was painted black also but yer brand new
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Old 16-01-06, 16:02   #19
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Just put my car in to "hospital" to get a cure for cancer. bought a panel from rare spares for $168.20 so it all should be good.
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Old 16-01-06, 18:16   #20
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anyone know how to take out the front windscreen without breaking it ?
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Old 17-01-06, 00:26   #21
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taking the front windscreen out without cracking it would b a very *** hard job mate to get mine out i cut the rubber all the way around it from the inside and out n was very gentle trying to push it out and it was still cracked so bad it wasnt funny.....good luck
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Old 22-01-06, 20:18   #22
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yeah for my front windscreen, i just put some rust converter on it
waited a few days.. HARD as a rock
bogged and stuck the trim back on.
cheap and effective
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Old 22-01-06, 20:54   #23
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My VK Calais rear window panel was pretty bad, we bogged up the boot channel and that held off the rust for a while, but its come back further along near the pillar so we will need to do the rare spares rust replacement panel thing.

Front window is fine. The VL's had more front window rust problems that the VK's did.

My panel beater mate has just done a full respray on a VL Calais turbo and they brazed up all the holes in the rear window boot gutter, which was not bad at all and was only two very small spots, however the front LHS of windscreen needed heaps of work.
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Old 22-01-06, 21:41   #24
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I stripped my car down to a bare shell, you drill through the spot welds on the windscreen sill panel and lift it off, the rare spares replacement panel fitted ok, with some small grinding adjustments.I also painted under the sill first before I welded it back on to ensure a neat job.
The only tweaking nessesary was to get it to line up with the bonnet evenly.
The back sill I had the gutter made by an engineering shop and had it fitted perfectly.All that was after a week in the boot sanding and wire wheeling, and two weeks in the engine bay sanding and smoothing.
Not one single bit of rust now
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Old 24-01-06, 23:20   #25
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hey, any pics lads? would really love to see the work done... befor and after shots would be great thanks
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