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Old 03-03-03, 16:08   #1
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Supercharged! RB30ESC

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Questions stick em here and i'll get back to ya soon, and hopefully Geoff from Darwin will help also (The only two cars i know about).

Supercharging is Cheap, easy, reliable, and fully adjustable in the setup and you must admit being blown is by far the best thing going.

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Old 03-03-03, 20:02   #2
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Old 03-03-03, 20:30   #3
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Are you planing on putting it on a dyno any time shortly? Would be interesting to see how it compared to various turbo setups.
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Old 03-03-03, 21:04   #4
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You say " you must admit being blown is by far the best thing going "

Its a good new idea, but just wait till a VL Turbo kicks your arse. You might change your mind.

If it was the best thing, all the dudes running a 1000+hp at the wheel, would have twin blowers lol..........I do believe there running turbos....lol
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Old 03-03-03, 21:36   #5
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stromy.. have u relocated ur powersteering pump to the other side of ur engine so that you can mount superchager where the pwr steering pump used to be ? i didnt manage to see the s/c that well in the pics.

using vlt injector/ecu i guess aswell ?
what boost u running ?

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Old 03-03-03, 21:48   #6
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I dunno what sort of budget you're on, and am not making an assumption from the DIY blown setup but ....

Have you ever thought of going twin charged in the future ... turbo would be able to takeover from where the supercharger runs out of puff. Be bloody interesting to see the results of twincharging an RB30. I'm sure its been done before, just doesn't seem to be too much info on it.
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Old 04-03-03, 00:05   #7
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running std ecu and inject at max boost of 8. powersteer pump on other side now yes to clear area for SC, although i'm still having trouble getting it just right so i'm happy with it.

as for my budget, well lets say takes me a week to save for a belt, i build car cause i enjoy building them, i send my car nowhere to have any thing done to it. from white gloved engine rebuild (mill it at work) to respray, electrical(one of my trades) to interior is the fun in building cars, when i finish chopping and changing then i will pull it all apart and manufacture all the mounts in stainless, polish them, put it all back together then look for a new idea to complete.

finally being blown may not have the horsepower you speak of from me anyway, but it sure as hell feels good to me, and the car goes good too.
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Old 04-03-03, 10:32   #8
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Looks good man. Diy jobs always the best feeling. I gotta agree with some others though, You wont get the same rush from a SC as you will with a decent turbo or 2. But thats my opinion, If you like it that way then great keep it. Also dont get me wrong, with a decent charger you should be able to pull some decent horses. Enough to beat alot of vl turbo's. Basically its different and i love it, a vl with some originality.
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Old 06-03-03, 00:33   #10
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How much have you ended up spending so far doing the Conversion? :roll:
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How much would you ask to put that setup on my NA?

What is your BHP estimate?
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Old 06-03-03, 16:28   #12
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i'd say i've spent 500 tops,could have been less if i thought of things before hand.
to do it now would cost

350 SC
60 X-over pipe
20 bits from wreckers
20 belt
20 belt-grip(thanks geoff)
30 misc elec bits
and some scrap steel

and time
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have you thought of intercooling?
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Old 07-03-03, 17:29   #14
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uploading some new pics now!

after reading what you wrote geoff about the water pump belt and bearings i've decided to go back to crank drive with belt grip to see if it's better than before. when i've got the two extra injectors and the water meth injection happening then i will work out some way of getting the drive speed back up to 2Xengine speed
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Old 05-04-03, 10:25   #15
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Hey Stromy,
Glad to be of help, and sorry to put the wind up you about the waterpump bearings, but I don't think they were designed with that kind of load in mind! You can use that V6 pulley [cut back to flat, with new guts welded in, that's how I did mine -$250 from friendly lathe operator] on the crank, but you will have to add a spacer to the fan mount for clearance.I used a 5mm piece of alloy under the fan mount which gave me about 4mm clearance, it's not much, but has not hit yet.
I'm not certain of this yet, but I believe the sc12 pulley may be smaller than the sc14's 110mm magnetic unit. I saw sc12 on a Suzuki setup some time ago, and the pulley certainly looked smaller than mine, but I did not measure it damn it. If someone has sc12, let us know the outer diameter of the pully please!
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Old 05-04-03, 19:58   #16
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Originally Posted by VL CALAIS LE TURBO
If it was the best thing, all the dudes running a 1000+hp at the wheel, would have twin blowers lol..........I do believe there running turbos....lol

6000hp top fuelers run s/c's, so there goes your theory by about 5000hp :roll:
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Old 06-04-03, 03:35   #17
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been building a few bits me and my mate steve, he would be my master lathe man. good old barter system price reduced to nothing. Here's what we've done;

*constructed twin throttle body by facing the plenum on the throttle body side to accecpt a flat 1" thick riser for the twins. Drilled,and port matched the holes for the new air, mounted them 35mm apart measured between the inner mounting bolts, and waiting now to get tanked then welded, be ready fri

*added 4 extra injectors two fuel and two water methonol

*got hold of a old but never fitted brand new nippon denso intercooler

*started making drive pulley 210 in dia. started with 150mm of 210 steam pipe with wall thickness of 6mm,welded in a pulley centre off a old clevelend v8 welded on my p/steer pulley, just have to true up the outer edge add some grooves and we'll be done

* got a STI airflow meter

can't wait to get it all done this week hopfully
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It would appear that most people on this forum have yet to go for a drive in a blown car. No lag, boost everywhere, good sounds and fully driveable in big HP engines
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set up and drove blown 460 BB in XC coupe auto, nice machine. Also had a hand in on a Blown 510 Chev in a HG manual, never drove it cause the bloke testing it missed a gear change and sent the engine Rpm off tacho, RIP this one.
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What type & brand blower did u use and where did u get it from?
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What type & brand blower did u use and where did u get it from?
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Old 12-04-03, 13:22   #22
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sc-14 from just jap
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Murdercity your a ****n wanker .....Making comparisions to Top Fuelers... Knob

XPSI, how the f**k! would you know what cars people been in? ****head !!
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hey stormy have you got some pics of the twin throtle body set up?
cause I want to make something like that up for my car.
what sort of throtle bodys did you use?
and have you adjusted your ecu yet?

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Old 13-04-03, 13:03   #25
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Hey stromy, great effort.

I have supercharged a few cars over the years, so know the work and effort you have put into it. Very well done indeed.

From my own efforts with the SC14, I think a supercharger bypass valve might offer you several advantages as far as noise, heat build up, and fuel economy are concerned. Toyota always use a bypass on their engines, but because it is built into the inlet manifold casting, it is just about impossible to adapt to anything else.

But you could add a bypass to your system very easily, if you are interested. This can be done by adapting a turbo external wastegate.

What happens is the bypass remains open around the blower at idle and light throttle, meaning the rotors just spin around consuming no power. As you apply more throttle, the bypass gradually closes, and the boost UPSTREAM of the throttle body increases with greater throttle opening.

It will completely change the throttle feel, and improve light throttle drivability. This can be used in conjunction with the existing clutch if you wish, in the same way Toyota do it to give very smooth operation.

Do not take any of this as criticism of your existing setup. But as a suggestion to make it even better. All production supercharged cars that I know of use a blower bypass of some description, and there are some real benefits to be had.
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