Calais Turbo

roarn8 · 10-06-16, 09:43

hi all

is there any difference from standard vl calais front brakes and vl calais turbo front brakes?

would they be a good upgrade from standard brakes if there is a difference?

Geniee · 10-06-16, 10:29

I believe the turbo ones are slightly larger and the calipers are finned to help with the heat.
the master cylinder is also larger on the turbo models.

SIroller · 11-06-16, 21:09

what genie said is correct

std calais are pretty pitiful.

"turbo" brakes can be obtrained from any vr vs and are identified by fins on the caliper.
they do make a difference.

Dad runs standard vlt discs all around a vt master and booster and new lines and the brakes can be applied with your little toe its a great cheap factory upgrade.

roarn8 · 13-06-16, 16:36

thanks boys appreciate it.

Antho · 13-06-16, 23:28

Just adding to what the guys above said

Master cylinder on turbo and V8 is 1", non-turbo 6 is 15/16"

The discs are larger diameter 290mm on turbo and V8, 270mm standard.

The finned calipers were used up until VS on V8 models excluding some HSVs Group A etc.

They bolt straight up and are pretty good unless you have heaps of HP.

I found them to be good enough with a mild engine setup.

If you are chasing heaps of power I would do the VT conversion - do a search heaps of guides on how to do it.

SIroller · 14-06-16, 09:21

ive seen the finned calipers on standard vr vs however ive seen the smooth style still on vn 6 bangers. so im not sure when they changed over and what the terms were but theyre more readily available than just v8 models.

Antho · 16-06-16, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIroller

ive seen the finned calipers on standard vr vs however ive seen the smooth style still on vn 6 bangers. so im not sure when they changed over and what the terms were but theyre more readily available than just v8 models.

Yeah sorry you are right there mate

VL I6 = 270mm smooth callipers

VL Turbo I6/V8 = 289mm finned callipers

VN/VP V6 = 270mm smooth callipers

VN/VP V8 = 289mm finned callipers

VN Group A = 330mm twin pot callipers

VP Series II V6 = 289mm smooth callipers

VR/VS V6/V8 = 290mm finned callipers

VR/VS HSV = 330mm twin pot callipers

*VR onwards had ABS but made no difference to the callipers themselves

*VR onwards had a floating rotor that sat on the hub as opposed to the VB-VP rotors having the wheel bearing as part of the rotor

10-06-16, 09:43	#1
roarn8 Player Join Date: 29-06-11 Location: VIC, Westie Car: Trader Rating: (0)	difference between standard vl brakes and vl turbo brakes hi all is there any difference from standard vl calais front brakes and vl calais turbo front brakes? would they be a good upgrade from standard brakes if there is a difference? __________________ ROARN8 = VY II SS UTE

10-06-16, 10:29	#2
Geniee Player Join Date: 26-01-12 Location: VIC, eastern suburbs Car: Trader Rating: (0)	I believe the turbo ones are slightly larger and the calipers are finned to help with the heat. the master cylinder is also larger on the turbo models. __________________ vroooom vroooom cough cough cough tttssstttooooo splutter.......

11-06-16, 21:09	#3
SIroller CAL.415 Join Date: 11-03-07 Location: International, Chapel Street Car: S1 VLC 'CAL415' (sold) SLT MX7 S/W Trader Rating: (52)	what genie said is correct std calais are pretty pitiful. "turbo" brakes can be obtrained from any vr vs and are identified by fins on the caliper. they do make a difference. Dad runs standard vlt discs all around a vt master and booster and new lines and the brakes can be applied with your little toe its a great cheap factory upgrade. __________________ Hibernating.

13-06-16, 16:36	#4
roarn8 Player Join Date: 29-06-11 Location: VIC, Westie Car: Trader Rating: (0)	thanks boys appreciate it. __________________ ROARN8 = VY II SS UTE .

14-06-16, 09:21	#6
SIroller CAL.415 Join Date: 11-03-07 Location: International, Chapel Street Car: S1 VLC 'CAL415' (sold) SLT MX7 S/W Trader Rating: (52)	ive seen the finned calipers on standard vr vs however ive seen the smooth style still on vn 6 bangers. so im not sure when they changed over and what the terms were but theyre more readily available than just v8 models. __________________ Hibernating.

13-06-16, 23:28	#5
Antho Certified Wise Join Date: 28-09-03 Location: Brisbane, South Car: 2 x VL Calais Turbo, VL Berlina Turbo, 2 x Ford Explorer V8, Subaru Forester GT, BMW 325i M Sport Trader Rating: (74)	Just adding to what the guys above said Master cylinder on turbo and V8 is 1", non-turbo 6 is 15/16" The discs are larger diameter 290mm on turbo and V8, 270mm standard. The finned calipers were used up until VS on V8 models excluding some HSVs Group A etc. They bolt straight up and are pretty good unless you have heaps of HP. I found them to be good enough with a mild engine setup. If you are chasing heaps of power I would do the VT conversion - do a search heaps of guides on how to do it.