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Old 06-07-10, 17:28   #1
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Any mechanics to do VL turbo conversion in Melbourne??

Hi everyone,
just thought id throw it out here as i know there are a lot of capable "mechanics" on this site. Just wondering if there are any in the Melbourne area who would be willing to do my N/A to turbo conversion? if so how much would you charge a fellow CT member ?

I am sourcing all the bolt on parts myself (may need a clutch) and hoping to use my mint NA engine and 5spd gear box strengthening where required - i have a budget and am trying to achieve about 200rwkw

Any suggestions/offeres will be appreciated

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Old 06-07-10, 17:49   #2
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Mate what parts are you using? Maybe list what your doing?
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Old 06-07-10, 17:58   #3
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Mate what parts are you using? Maybe list what your doing?
yeah good point

Well i have been talking to ShaunVL off here and he has been really helpful
Basically i really want to do this, using my motor (120,000Km original) and maybe rebuild it a bit, head, pistons, etc and bolt the turbo parts on to it. the mechanic im talking to said ill definatly need a clutch so thats fine i understand.

Was not wanting to spend too much though, and dont want it to turn into a money pit, so was thinking fairly stock turbo parts, t3/t4 high flowed turbo, VL turbo injectors and VLT ECU

to be honest if i could get it done for under $3,500 id be happy
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Old 06-07-10, 18:06   #4
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At a 120,000km, if it hasnt been thrashed then theres probably no need to even open the head mate, just do a basic turbo conversion.
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Old 06-07-10, 18:09   #5
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At a 120,000km, if it hasnt been thrashed then theres probably no need to even open the head mate, just do a basic turbo conversion.
yeah thats what i was thinking, well its been my grandfather, then my brother who absolutely babies his cars then me, and yes i like to give it a bit, but definately not thrashed

just dont know what this mechanic will say and charge if you know what i mean hence why im asking for any of the CT members if they know or are mechanics
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Old 06-07-10, 18:11   #6
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You should be able to do all of it yourself mate, but ive heard the mf5 boxes are terribles, so probably chuck in some new fluid while your at it and dont be to stupid with it.

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First thing though mate, upgrade your brakes!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-07-10, 18:18   #7
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Call the number in my signiture...

He's a fully qualified machineist/engine builder and has done countless NA to Turbo conversions...

He has all the facilities to do a drive in drive out conversion and is cheaper than most workshops.
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Old 06-07-10, 18:27   #8
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IMO get a an MX7 box, which is the turbo manual gearbox. MF5 is the standard na box and isnt all that strong may hold very very slight boost but not much
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Why not just get a R33 5 Speed and be done with it?
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the thing is, the gearbox adds another $1000 at least and im trying to do this for under $3500

the gearbox is something i can do later on if needed

i need to find out what gear box it is in there as it was a factory auto and my bro got the conversion done - im thinking its a NA skyline box

i wish i could do it myself, but A) dont have the workshop, b)dont have the time, and c) dont have the know how
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Well as I said give my mate a call...

He will be able to..

A) Tell you what you need or he recommends
B) Give you a price
C) Do it all in his own workshop which has 2 hoists, a engine room, flow bench ect.

He's built a few motors for the guys on here and pretty sure he just recently sold his own 10 sec VLT to a current member.
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Old 06-07-10, 18:50   #12
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You would strugle with that much power with a n/a box, try to get a turbo box, theres nothing wrong with a mx7 at that power, infact what i have seen on these forums, people underestimate the mx7 when it comes to the choice between r33 and mx7.

You would also have to consider the diff and go nice on it.

Get your hands dirty and do it yourself, its a piece of cake, expect to waste most of your money saved on getting someone else to do it.

No need to open the engine up, just wack it on.
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But you will need to upgrade the brakes man.
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Old 06-07-10, 19:01   #14
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First of all if he was to consider converting it himself he would need to make sure he has a A6 block which already has the oil and water threads tapped.

Also for what its worth, I would probably want to remove the head inspect the bore and head gasket befor I go running boost on a N/A motor.... Wouldn't want to blow a headgasket on my daily driven car or worse throw a rod out the side of the block.

If it was my car id do it properly rather than bolt a turbo up, cooler, ecu and injectors into my car and hope for the best.

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But you will need to upgrade the brakes man.
Why will he need to upgrade the brakes...

I've driven a few VLT's with standard N/A brakes and they pulled up ok... just gotta know when get off the throttle and start braking... It's not a must!
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He has drums at the rear? Yeah its a must to upgrade the brakes lol Atleat vt master and vs booster..
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The standard brake master cylinder would be sufficient for the standard brake setup... I dont see need to apply more clamping force unless the brake system was upgraded to something bigger like the harrop/hsv twin piston calipers...

Also about 70% of the braking would be preformed by his front brake... As I said upgrading the brakes isant a must... not saying it isant a good idea...

Lets get this thread back on track...

So we've highlighted one of the major things he would need to do is get a new clutch for his current transmission at the least but how long it will last is the issue... Ideally id try and find a R33 conversion kit as their pretty easy to come by, will be cheaper than a MX7 and will easilly handle the power his chasing...
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First of all if he was to consider converting it himself he would need to make sure he has a A6 block which already has the oil and water threads tapped.

Also for what its worth, I would probably want to remove the head inspect the bore and head gasket befor I go running boost on a N/A motor.... Wouldn't want to blow a headgasket on my daily driven car or worse throw a rod out the side of the block.

If it was my car id do it properly rather than bolt a turbo up, cooler, ecu and injectors into my car and hope for the best.[COLOR="Silver"]

First of all buddy, a a6 block is just a n/a block, a8 block is a turbo block, that doesnt represent that it has the bungs from his turbo lines.

Your after what people refer to as a series 2 block, which has the bungs for the turbo lines, otherwise you will have to get them tapped out or source another bottom end. You can find the picture for what to look for in Mad_Wogs thread in technical artical about n/a to turbo. If you cant find this ill link you the picture.

Also, theres nothing wrong with slapping on a turbo kit for that power, it will go no dramas. Only thing you would consider is getting a turbo cam, or even a aftermarket one. If you take the head off then slap on a genuine nissan headgasket for 80bucks, if your planning on cranking up the boost and aiming for some high figures, get something like a 1.9mm cometic headgasket to help drop the compression down a bit more for a closer amount to the turbo compression and smash up the boost.

Also it would be a smart idea to wack on some slotted rotors on the front with some vl turbo calipers to help pull her up.
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He has drums at the rear? Yeah its a must to upgrade the brakes lol Atleat vt master and vs booster..
your an idiot. im sorry but it needs to be said.


if your chasing 220 i would start changing all the other stuff like gearbox, diff, brakes, etc and you wont make that power on stock injectors and computer. i made 205rwkw on 12.5 pounds and my injectors are max duty cycle but still safe mixture. i run 10 pound daily and that made like 193rwkw or something like that.
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Ok guys, thanks so much for all your input but i dont want it to turn into a slaggin match, i really appreciate everyones thoughts.

@SHIZNT - thanks for that info about your mate ill contact him tomorrow - where is his workshop located?

@zac320 - i dont need to do the brakes yet as i class my self as someone that can drive and use down shifting to brake more than the brake and SHIZNT makes a good point about the brakes too, as most of the braking does come from the front.

Basically to put it in pespective im not chasing BIG power, i was some boost, so going NA to something like 200kw is more than enough.... for now

I want to try and do this without too much expense, i do have a house to buy one day...

I also want to know what you think a mechanic would charge to rebuild my motor as this guy i went too first said about $3000 and that was to do head, pistons, conrods, etc to make it equivalent to a turbo motor

So do we think a NA diff will be ok for the mean time? to handle 190-200 rwkw?

And yes its a series2 so all ready for the turbo lines etc

thanks again and i do appreciate this help alot
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No probs dude... His workshop is located in Bacchus Marsh.
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mmm bacchus marsh, that a looooong way from me

ill give him a buzz anyway, thanks mate
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I wouldnt even waste my time rebuilding the motor with 120,000 on it, should be as good as new.

Im guess a shop might charge 1000 to turbo your car with all your parts supplied? I dont really know, never payed someone to do it. Seriously man if u can spare a weekend and have a mate keen to give u a hand, do it yourself its easy ****.
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You won't see 200rw/kw with stock turbo injectors & ecu
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well i guess ill know more tonight when i speak to my mechanic
i have a feeling its going to cost me $5,000 to do it, but will be done with a fully rebuilt NA motor, which will handle upwards of 200rwkw

will let you all know what he says tonight
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