Calais Turbo

Steve · 13-10-09, 11:02

Anyone ever seen this before? Just happened to me then when taking the Calais for a leisurely drive around the block....

Waughy · 13-10-09, 11:15

What brand are they? How old are they? I have new nolathane adjustables in my Calais. Those pics don't look too good. I've heard and seen of the factory rubber ones coming away from the centre part, but never that bad.

YBJLS4 · 13-10-09, 11:22

your lucky it didnt come through the bonnet

5spdvl · 13-10-09, 11:30

I've only heard bad things about the adjustable Nolathane strut tops Steve, but that's scary.

Is anything else damaged?

Steve · 13-10-09, 11:36

Not sure what brand they are or age, but I am guessing theyre nolathane (well mainly because they're red!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5spdvl

I've only heard bad things about the adjustable Nolathane strut tops Steve, but that's scary.

Is anything else damaged?

Really? Spill it! I just ordered a new set of adjustable Nolathane tops..............

Nothing else damaged that I can see at the moment.

Just pulled out the strut in the time between posting this thread and now...

jbonez · 13-10-09, 12:05

I had some pedders adjustable ones f/up

This is without even driving the car, they fell out while it was jacked up for a month or 2 in my driveway. But when I went back the ones they replaced it with(still pedders brand) were of a different quality, so I figure the batch was a bit rough!

5spdvl · 13-10-09, 12:45

I would go Pedders as a minimum Steve. I think Nolathane bushes are ok, but I wouldn't bother with their strut tops. K-Mac if you want to splurge.

Steve · 13-10-09, 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbonez

I had some pedders adjustable ones f/up

This is without even driving the car, they fell out while it was jacked up for a month or 2 in my driveway. But when I went back the ones they replaced it with(still pedders brand) were of a different quality, so I figure the batch was a bit rough!

Woah thats crazy!

5spdvl · 13-10-09, 13:38

I remember when that happened jbonez, not nice at all.

jbonez · 13-10-09, 14:06

Yea I will be inspecting the new ones regularly, It was almost like they didnt put enough hardener in them (not sure how poly works tho) but if you look at that design there is alot of stress put on that polyeurathane section with not alot of a lip to hold it all in, They offered to do the work if I could get the car to them, but how was I going to tow it with the strut loose in the guard? Plus mechanical shops use rattle guns too bloody much.

Steve · 13-10-09, 16:36

Yeh worked out mine was a Nolethane Adjustable....

5spdvl · 13-10-09, 16:40

Dun dun dunnnnnnnnn!!!

Waughy · 13-10-09, 17:17

Sh!t. Best be keeping an eye on mine then.

87calais · 14-10-09, 21:50

That type of thing is normally a result of the suspension bottoming out over time, and/or having worn, damaged, or too short or long bump stops installed (or no bump stops). Have seen quite a few sets fail in a similar way over the years. probably been failing for a while now, once the urethane starts to break up they deteriorate rapidly. Could simply just be old and worn out, and finally gave up. The Urethane doesn't flex nearly as much s rubber, which is why they are good for control, however once they go, they go!

stokowagn · 15-10-09, 06:48

Maybe try Noltec, the blue ones. They're priced about the same as Nolathane.

EDIT: Oops, just did a search, looks like they've been bought out by Whiteline.

jordy · 15-10-09, 07:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokowagn

Maybe try Noltec, the blue ones. They're priced about the same as Nolathane.

EDIT: Oops, just did a search, looks like they've been bought out by Whiteline.

I have the noltec style tops in my car, and they are awesome. There's no urethane or rubber to break, so this **** doesn't happen.

BT1-355 · 15-10-09, 09:42

I've had KMAC ones on for years and never problems with it. I recommend go for KMAC ones

Steve · 15-10-09, 12:30

Ah well... I bought Nolethane ones again - I was in a rush to get it ready for RWC which I passed. I'll probably overhaul the lot another day soon...

I had some Kmac's before but I sold them in one of my 'getting out of VL' sales a couple of years ago!

13-10-09, 11:30	#4
5spdvl Aaaaaaand it's gone. Join Date: 29-07-07 Location: VIC, City Car: It used to be this Trader Rating: (22)	I've only heard bad things about the adjustable Nolathane strut tops Steve, but that's scary. Is anything else damaged? .

13-10-09, 12:05	#6
jbonez King Of Re-Work Join Date: 13-02-08 Location: Brisbane, Northside Car: Daily grinder Trader Rating: (1)	I had some pedders adjustable ones f/up This is without even driving the car, they fell out while it was jacked up for a month or 2 in my driveway. But when I went back the ones they replaced it with(still pedders brand) were of a different quality, so I figure the batch was a bit rough! Last edited by jbonez; 13-10-09 at 12:09. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

13-10-09, 16:36	#11
Steve ( . Y . ) Join Date: 04-11-02 Location: Perth, WA - NOR Car: Calais Trader Rating: (31)	Yeh worked out mine was a Nolethane Adjustable.... __________________ Please Tell Your Boobs To Stop Staring At My Eyes...

14-10-09, 21:50	#14
87calais legend Join Date: 19-06-02 Location: NSW, Newcastle Car: '87 VLCT Manual, '11 VE SS-V Manual Trader Rating: (12)	That type of thing is normally a result of the suspension bottoming out over time, and/or having worn, damaged, or too short or long bump stops installed (or no bump stops). Have seen quite a few sets fail in a similar way over the years. probably been failing for a while now, once the urethane starts to break up they deteriorate rapidly. Could simply just be old and worn out, and finally gave up. The Urethane doesn't flex nearly as much s rubber, which is why they are good for control, however once they go, they go! __________________ 87calais

15-10-09, 09:42	#17
BT1-355 Never LATE in a 355 Join Date: 20-08-05 Location: Melbourne, West Side Car: VP BT1 STROKER, BLOWN STATESMAN, CAPRICE CRUSIER AND A DAILY daewoo Trader Rating: (29)	I've had KMAC ones on for years and never problems with it. I recommend go for KMAC ones __________________ One's BLOWN, One's STROKE, THE BEST OF BOTH WORLD'S

13-10-09, 11:15	#2
Waughy Gold Members Join Date: 24-05-04 Location: NSW, Newcastle Car: VZ Wagon. Trader Rating: (11)	What brand are they? How old are they? I have new nolathane adjustables in my Calais. Those pics don't look too good. I've heard and seen of the factory rubber ones coming away from the centre part, but never that bad.

13-10-09, 11:22	#3
YBJLS4 Gold Members Join Date: 22-08-02 Location: Melbourne, Northern Suburbs (Melbourne) Car: 88' Calaisturbo, 87' Calais 355, SV88 Walkinshaw Build#164 Trader Rating: (5)	your lucky it didnt come through the bonnet

13-10-09, 12:45	#7
5spdvl Aaaaaaand it's gone. Join Date: 29-07-07 Location: VIC, City Car: It used to be this Trader Rating: (22)	I would go Pedders as a minimum Steve. I think Nolathane bushes are ok, but I wouldn't bother with their strut tops. K-Mac if you want to splurge.

13-10-09, 13:38	#9
5spdvl Aaaaaaand it's gone. Join Date: 29-07-07 Location: VIC, City Car: It used to be this Trader Rating: (22)	I remember when that happened jbonez, not nice at all.

13-10-09, 14:06	#10
jbonez King Of Re-Work Join Date: 13-02-08 Location: Brisbane, Northside Car: Daily grinder Trader Rating: (1)	Yea I will be inspecting the new ones regularly, It was almost like they didnt put enough hardener in them (not sure how poly works tho) but if you look at that design there is alot of stress put on that polyeurathane section with not alot of a lip to hold it all in, They offered to do the work if I could get the car to them, but how was I going to tow it with the strut loose in the guard? Plus mechanical shops use rattle guns too bloody much.

13-10-09, 16:40	#12
5spdvl Aaaaaaand it's gone. Join Date: 29-07-07 Location: VIC, City Car: It used to be this Trader Rating: (22)	Dun dun dunnnnnnnnn!!!

13-10-09, 17:17	#13
Waughy Gold Members Join Date: 24-05-04 Location: NSW, Newcastle Car: VZ Wagon. Trader Rating: (11)	Sh!t. Best be keeping an eye on mine then.

15-10-09, 06:48	#15
stokowagn Official Member Join Date: 28-03-06 Location: Sydney, Parramatta Car: VZ Thunder SS Ute Trader Rating: (11)	Maybe try Noltec, the blue ones. They're priced about the same as Nolathane. EDIT: Oops, just did a search, looks like they've been bought out by Whiteline.

15-10-09, 12:30	#18
Steve ( . Y . ) Join Date: 04-11-02 Location: Perth, WA - NOR Car: Calais Trader Rating: (31)	Ah well... I bought Nolethane ones again - I was in a rush to get it ready for RWC which I passed. I'll probably overhaul the lot another day soon... I had some Kmac's before but I sold them in one of my 'getting out of VL' sales a couple of years ago! __________________ Please Tell Your Boobs To Stop Staring At My Eyes...