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Old 30-06-09, 19:24   #101
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you aint gonna get 500 cars to a planning meeting mate
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Old 30-06-09, 19:29   #102
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i think your best bet is using other states as an example they get a huge amount of motor sport i think we are down to philip island gp and the grand prix ohh not to mention winton drift days
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Old 30-06-09, 19:30   #103
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Old 30-06-09, 19:30   #104
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nah but youll get 1200 people to northern suburb industrial estates......

Trust me we can get big numbers behind this, as long as everone for sees the reason behind why
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Old 30-06-09, 19:31   #105
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if a cruise is organised no stupid behavior or its just a pointless cruise! we are doing this to show the people that we can behave and do what we love doing in a well mannered way and raise some money for a charity!
That there is your problem.

Im not sure how much of an inpact its going to have. What are we really protesting here? The fact that you get your car taken off you if you break the law?

These laws were created to show joe public that something was being done to stop young people speeding and losing thier lives. Are you hoping to get the hoon laws abolished?

I thought this was about easternats.

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Old 30-06-09, 19:32   #106
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"Springvale Acting Sen-Sgt Phil Atkins said safety concerns for drivers and spectators led police to support the MRC’s choice. "

so wtf would you rather people wrapping themselfs around poles wat are we to do now how about before you **** us over on 1 thing build something else so we can get off the streets and have a bit of fun legally " i consider the next fatallity on victorias roads at fault of the MRC"

well done you assholes

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Old 30-06-09, 19:35   #107
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I agree with Katsa and BLK747 but Sergio and know wat point you are trying to make.

Lately all we have apeared to be in the publics eye is threats to the commnity. In Taking Easternats away and calder park witch they have all ready done away they are only going to make it worse.

We need to all come together out on our best behavour no number plates and rego stickers covered because that will lead to nothing but trouble. And try and get good meadia attention for once but this will mean for every one to be on there best behavour no excusses.

And wat the media dont tend to put on there front pages are things that we do well in and try help the community and other peoples lives a little bit easyer EG "CRUISE FOR CHARITY" if we can behave ourselves for such an event as that why can we all get together in a event to try to save such places were we can take out our much loved hobbies and for some of us the only thing that makes us wake up and go to wokr and pay our taxes like calder and easternats safely and under controled enviroment.
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Old 30-06-09, 19:35   #108
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Chris (Katsa) and Brett (PROGMH), on the ball as always.

The idea has my full support. I'm up for planned meeting, discussion over a long table with politicians, whatever it takes.

Just be prepared people to answer the hard questions.
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Old 30-06-09, 19:36   #109
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i havent even had a chance to part take in the driving events only spectate im really pissd now
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Old 30-06-09, 19:42   #110
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tim, thanks for the support mate, something will be done this time round weve bitten the bullet long enough
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Old 30-06-09, 20:07   #111
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" i consider the next fatallity on victorias roads at fault of the MRC"

well done you assholes

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Well if the car was a highly modified car doing illegal things on the easter saturday, sunday and monday... then maybe.
You can't really blame them for deaths when the majority of people 'hooning' wouldn't have been at an event like this on this particular weekend anyway.
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Old 30-06-09, 20:10   #112
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ive neen in touch with inflytmelb (michael of world advertising) basically we have the ball rolling allready.
As i said to michael this is not about winning or loosing, its about standing up for whats right.
We need a group of 10 to represent us.
Whos up, keeping in mind this could mean media interviews etc
Brett progmh, you need to be one if thats ok
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Old 30-06-09, 20:12   #113
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katsa u legend u have my support behind u
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Old 30-06-09, 20:16   #114
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Brett progmh, you need to be one if thats ok
lol, eye eye captain.

What are we complaining about here though? What is the real issue?

I'm hearing two sides.
1. Easternats closing - well we dont even know whats happening here yet, there are rumours that its going to calder and we will have a new easter event at sandown.

2. Hoon laws. I fear treading this path will lead to bad things. Try convincing the public that we arent a menace in our high powered cars... we've proven we cant be trusted over and over again (as a group).
The reason there is these laws is because the public complain and then politicians have knee jerk reactions and create laws to have the illusion that they're acting and solving the problem.
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Old 30-06-09, 20:17   #115
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Sounds fantastic. I would be more than happy to help.

As for the issue, tackling hoon laws it is generally difficult to tackle because lets admit everyone
on this forum has some form of illegal mod on their car or has partaken in illegal activity. We cannot protest
for people doing 70ks over the speed limit and plowing into another car, but the fact that it is still happening
with the laws in place may make an arguement.

We atleast have a decent chance at saving easternats.
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Old 30-06-09, 20:38   #116
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i think it would be better if a sponsor or someone who has supported eater nats for years would be a much better face then some blokes off a forum. katsa if this did get off the ground and lets say someone dropped a note on a few people looking to front the operation the media would strip it to threads if they knew what else people likes to be involved in
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Old 30-06-09, 20:39   #117
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im in chris! and brett you need to be definetely in on this as you have good ideas and vision of this whole situation! and mick thank you so much for the offer of the meeting spot thats a great idea! as soon as we have all the 10 - 15 people for the meeting then we can hold it and have a discussion on what needs to be done and how its going to be done! for now i think we need all YOU people to throw some ideas at us and nothing stupid it needs to stay legal and in some way to show the average joe what we are about! without the media twisting our words and making us look like idiots like they have done in the past!
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Old 30-06-09, 20:40   #118
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How about we hold our horses for a sec.

John Davison (Easternats Promoter) is writing up a proper petition for this and will most likely end up with a meeting where you can show your support.
He's not taking this sitting down.

At this time we cannot come up with silly ideas of cruising, blocking roads etc as its just not going to help the cause - more like add fuel to the fire.

Leave it up to the professionals that run the business. We will show our support in a meeting, Just as we did last time (If you were there). Join the facebook group - John knows all about it too.

A bunch of guys in modified cars is only going to cause more trouble than its worth and get the whole crusade nowhere, FAST. The media would strip us to pieces if they wanted to, so leave it to the Pro's.

Wait for the big guns. Show your support. Let them lead us and we will be there for this event. Dont go off on tangents about hoon laws and all the rest of it, focus on the topic - Easternats.

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Old 30-06-09, 20:44   #119
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I agree! sorry guys but us "lil" people will have little to NO effect on this situation. Lets leave it to the proper people but we all have to support this 100%!!!

Give it some time and see if something comes up, if it doesnt, im more then happy to call john davison and see what his plans/ideas are.
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Old 30-06-09, 20:45   #120
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brett, yes the easternats issue is a big one, but its only part of the concern, the real problem is now they take easternats from us whats next. For us to be able to do what we love legally we have to drive to heathcote and pay even more to participate and to watch. They wonder why we do these things.
Look i know there are some very serious people here ready to stand up for whats right and we would appreciate all the support we can get!
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Old 30-06-09, 20:45   #121
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your 100% right brett but imagine the extra support we could give john if we organised a show and shine for this petition! and the media cant strip us of this because simply we arent doing anything wrong! a cruise on the other hand would definetely cause dramas like you said
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Old 30-06-09, 20:47   #122
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half the people that are killing them selfs arnt it cars that are to low /moded there in sh!t heap v6s's or v8s and there pushing the car way pasted the limits without knowing how to control there cars i dont see how some 1 cruising a car at say 65 in a 70 (just becuz the car might be 5-10mm under the legal height can get pulled over and defected when there not doing anything wrong i saw tonight on the news some 1s family (1 of the 1s that have been killed latly and hes saying to crush our cars umm wdf just becuz his son was a f#k wit in a car doesnt mean the rest of us are

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Old 30-06-09, 20:48   #123
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and katsa im 100% behind you aslong as this event is legal and we arent doing anything wrong the media cant touch us! hell il even invite them myself to finelly make a true story about us car enthusiasts! not the ones they have been playing for years! im sick of the media making us look like absolute idiots! and the public sucking it all in and beleiving everything they say!
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Old 30-06-09, 20:50   #124
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and katsa im 100% behind you aslong as this event is legal and we arent doing anything wrong the media cant touch us! hell il even invite them myself to finelly make a true story about us car enthusiasts! not the ones they have been playing for years! im sick of the media making us look like absolute idiots! and the public sucking it all in and beleiving everything they say!
u clearly dont know the media very well

if uv ever stepped a FOOT outta line, the whole world will know about it and our chances are tarnished.. u guys should know better!

we arent the people to start this, we can only support it!
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your 100% right brett but imagine the extra support we could give john if we organised a show and shine for this petition! and the media cant strip us of this because simply we arent doing anything wrong! a cruise on the other hand would definetely cause dramas like you said
Name an event that we have organised that hasnt had negative attention and resulted in defects. Been there done that.

I tried to organise meet ups a while ago if some of you remember and I got phoned up by a TOG officer and got told that they would not be supporting anything we had and would come down and defect every single car.

Show our support properly... let's not make a mess of this.

Anyway I've said my thoughts. Feel free to disagree with them but thats how I think it should be handled. I feel it will be bad news if we take this and run with it.

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