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Old 03-07-05, 21:02   #51
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Old 02-08-05, 16:15   #52
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Um, hi 11's with 200rwkw in a vl????

Ah, ok, maybe with no interior, lexan windows, fiberglass pannels and alot of faith....

Or, if u really want 11's, buy a datto 1600 with 200rwkw, you'll get there alot easier.
i had a vh sle that only had 162rwk and it ran mid 12's, just lettin you know
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Old 16-08-05, 00:26   #53
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Nice post. Very helpful for a Noobie.....
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Old 16-08-05, 18:59   #54
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Great post... it has helped heaps with my shopping list.
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Old 17-08-05, 02:19   #55
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So, if you were starting from scratch, would it really matter if you bought a VLT or a VL N/A???

Seeing as your swapping out most of the stuff......
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Old 17-08-05, 18:06   #56
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vlt always better as you get the brakes and all that to go with it. plus a turbo spec auto so you can modifly it, plus u get like exhaust manifold .etc
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Old 17-08-05, 20:38   #57
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Just a quick Q for anyone in the know. If I am to take my Bare engine(Head & block) Into the workshop and hand over 5k what will I get? My plan is to spend 5-6 on the engine and 5-6 on upgrading the rest of the stuff. Ie fuel sys, EMS, Turbo.
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Old 18-08-05, 15:58   #58
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for 5-6k ull get urself a bullet proof motor and5-6 on the rest will get you 1 super tuff bolt on package. goto rajab racing for best prices and excellent workmanship
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Old 19-08-05, 22:04   #59
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for 5-6k ull get urself a bullet proof motor and5-6 on the rest will get you 1 super tuff bolt on package. goto rajab racing for best prices and excellent workmanship
Bresciani will build you a motor that will stand up and allow you to run a 9.

sps forgies, shot peened rods. arp rod bolts, all the good stuff, freshen up and porting of the head, bresciani spec cam etc.....

another 5-6k will get you an aftermarket comp, turbo and maybe some injectors.

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Old 20-08-05, 15:26   #60
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another 5-6k will get you an aftermarket comp, turbo and maybe some injectors.
wolf3d V4 full kit with handset - $1195 (less without handset) OR microtech LT8 - $990
garrett GT35/40 with internal wastegate 1.06 rear - $1800
036 or 363 injectors set of 6 - $870
984 fuel pump - $250 OR 044 fuel pump - $350

all prices are for brand new stuff, so around 4k will do it nicely. enough HP potential in the above for 10s too
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Old 22-08-05, 12:44   #61
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Originally Posted by vlt-dreamer Bresciani will build you a motor that will stand up and allow you to run a 9.

sps forgies, shot peened rods. arp rod bolts, all the good stuff, freshen up and porting of the head, bresciani spec cam etc.....
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how do you no that have you rang them and asked them???
did they say it could,or would allow you to run a 9??? after you get the rest of the stuff.

laber in the cost of $5-6gs, or will that be more?
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Old 22-08-05, 22:12   #62
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for 5-6k ull get urself a bullet proof motor and5-6 on the rest will get you 1 super tuff bolt on package. goto rajab racing for best prices and excellent workmanship
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Bresciani will build you a motor that will stand up and allow you to run a 9.

sps forgies, shot peened rods. arp rod bolts, all the good stuff, freshen up and porting of the head, bresciani spec cam etc.....

another 5-6k will get you an aftermarket comp, turbo and maybe some injectors.

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dreamers add on the cost of labour, and instantly double ur cost of parts
doesnt the turbo need water and oil lines, dont injectors need plugs, dont turbo's need a dumpipe.....

stop pullin urselfs, theres a reason workshops charge 25k for a 'reliable' 10sec package
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Old 23-08-05, 16:51   #64
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workshops also charge that silly amount koz thats including parts, if you supply parts and stuff and u "might" know someone in the performance industry it might cost a bit less.
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Old 23-08-05, 18:38   #65
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workshops also charge that silly amount koz thats including parts, if you supply parts and stuff and u "might" know someone in the performance industry it might cost a bit less.
Its dreamer comments like $4000 gets u an 11 sec vl, that encorouges most of the stupidity on this site.

Im sick and tired of morons on this site bagging 11sec-10sec-9sec cars. I go to calder more than most people do on this site, and apart from all the big boy's most vl's I see DONT even run 12's on slicks.
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Old 26-08-05, 21:55   #66
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dreamers add on the cost of labour, and instantly double ur cost of parts
doesnt the turbo need water and oil lines, dont injectors need plugs, dont turbo's need a dumpipe.....

stop pullin urselfs, theres a reason workshops charge 25k for a 'reliable' 10sec package
It's not a quote for a job.... It's a rough guide.

A 25k enine package is for people who rock up to a workshop and say "I want a 10sec car" and for that price the car will run in the 10's nine times out of ten. But for people in the know and also have friends in the know it works out a lot cheaper for them and the car will proberly run in the 10's 5 times out of ten but for half the cost. I choose the later catergory.
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Old 26-08-05, 23:47   #67
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vlt-dreamer : obviously bresciani offer similar package as does JPC.etc but rajabs are cheaper by far all i was stateing.
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dreamers add on the cost of labour, and instantly double ur cost of parts
doesnt the turbo need water and oil lines, dont injectors need plugs, dont turbo's need a dumpipe.....

stop pullin urselfs, theres a reason workshops charge 25k for a 'reliable' 10sec package
there is NO justification for how much some workshops charge for their services, 25k.. fark man that is a ****load of cash! i know someone that has spent that much money on his running gear, and i WONT mention names, but he was guarunteed mid to high 9s and they still cant get a launch out of it. personally, if you have the know how and you have been there done that, then building a motor just as strong as a workshop isnt out of the question.. yes it costs extra money to wire and fit up a harness so what man the workshop charges more than what is costs for a mobile auto elec to come out and make one up, some places ask for too much money, and quite frankly, if you take your car to a workshop for its rep, you WILL pay unreasonable amounts of money to show off their work. man people in the 80s with their torries and falcons were making strong 11 second streetable engines, a 10 second VL turbo engine is far from street.

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your saying 10 second VL's are not streetable?
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engine this and that,u people seriously underestimate with standard bottom ends.
with a stock fresh bottom end,no acl pistons-genuine, de-comp plate and a nice head with the right cam your engine is set.xf throttle body,nice t4,3inch,pump injectors and computer(aftermarket or remapped) also extra injectors or bigger one or the other.with the right tuning and boost 16-20 you got the power...if your running a manual 3.9's will be fine also need a good clutch.or auto with 4k stall and 4:11's.
the right suspension,none of this jacked up arse end lowered front ****.front with 90/10's rear with standard variable rate springs and stock shocks what will this car run with a dcent driver,not some jack arse off the street tryin to be a s*ck c*nt???10's are on the table or very low 11 manual at the slowest
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also bigger turbo,higher revs to spool...low down power i think not.so this car is not as driveable and u'd hope.also add the nice cam to it and u got a pig to 3k.big gears few revs at 100k's.3inch exhaust less back pressure.really nice a quiet to cruise with the misses and kids if your older....hahahaha
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your saying 10 second VL's are not streetable?
ok.. well if you consider your car streetable when:

1) if your auto, youll have a high converter and higher gears.. sloppy pickup and a bit of lag

2) if your manual, you wont be running a heavy duty clutch, but you may thats your descision [real winner], youll be running a puk clutch or something of that type, so have fun at the lights or in peak hour traffic with your 10 second street car

3) youll have a cam that is profiled to the point where it doesnt even run properly unless its in its rev range, so youll be kickin back at the lights with your car wanting to puke because its not in its paces

4) youll be on the fwy kickin back turbo almost ready to spool up because your car is revin stupid revs

5) with fuel prices these days itll be an economy streeter wouldnt it :|

then your a REAL WINNER!

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Um, hi 11's with 200rwkw in a vl????

Or, if u really want 11's, buy a datto 1600 with 200rwkw, you'll get there alot easier.

I hate to break it to you ... but getting 11's out of a 1600 isn't that easy, Sure Mick McGregor etc can do it in their SR's, but IRS has troubles putting that power down to the ground, I had enough issues getting Flat 13 from my Z18ET on a Datto you need to spend so much more on suspension ..... .
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i had a vh sle that only had 162rwk and it ran mid 12's, just lettin you know


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