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Old 03-11-08, 10:28   #51
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Old 03-11-08, 14:18   #52
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thanks munro... you got a larger scan?
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Old 26-11-08, 12:35   #53
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anyone know the flow rates of na and turbo injectors?
What fuel pressure is in the rail?
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Old 27-11-08, 11:01   #54
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Great write up MAD WoG. You can get a "series 1" turbo block i believe. Thats what came with the "series 1" vl turbos yeh? Also many people have said the fuel pumps are the same too. The turbo front brakes have finned calipers and use a bigger rotor at 290 mm, the back brakes are the same.
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Old 27-11-08, 17:29   #55
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anyone know the flow rates of na and turbo injectors?
What fuel pressure is in the rail?
n/a 200cc t 250cc
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Old 28-11-08, 05:48   #56
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Thanks man.
Another question, im after part numbers for the turbo injectors or a direct replacement injector that flows a bit more than them.
They should be fine for my setup but i wouldn't mind going a tad bigger so further down the track i dont have to buy another set
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Old 28-11-08, 06:19   #57
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n/a 200cc t 250cc
nistune states, 185cc NA 259cc turbo. noone seems to really know actual rates of na injectors
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Old 28-11-08, 16:51   #58
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i can piss more than na injectors

anyone with part numbers??????
I got the number for the na injectors
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Old 18-12-08, 06:11   #59
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FWIW i start this conversion this weekend. With the oil feed/return and water feed, HOW do you get the plugs out of the block??? I know you soak them in CRC but they are not a socket per se - they look to be recessed hex? Anyone?

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Old 18-12-08, 08:15   #60
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FWIW i start this conversion this weekend. With the oil feed/return and water feed, HOW do you get the plugs out of the block??? I know you soak them in CRC but they are not a socket per se - they look to be recessed hex? Anyone?

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stick your extender bar in it... If you have a 1/2" one that is... works a treat
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munro - thanks mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 18-12-08, 12:45   #62
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great write up, we have just done this to my mates berlina, hes running an avo stage 1 cooler, he did not run the turbo injectors or computor at the start and it blew the head gasket, the timing was not correct either we believe it was advanced

hes now replaced the head gasket with a cometic 3 layer gasket, put the turbo injectors and computor in, set the timing correctly, sard fuel reg, also replaced plugs and leads, he gets it back tonight its only on standard boost but hes also got a boost controller so we will whack it up to 10psi and see what breaks next lol
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Old 20-12-08, 09:03   #63
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with the oil and water lines, how do they actually connect to the s2 block...
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Old 20-12-08, 10:50   #64
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shaun there are banjos (with bolts) that go through the banjo and hold the fitting to the block...

****ING exhaust manifold studs.
I have 4 still left in the head
2 were kindly sheared off for me already
The other 6 I just sheared off now.
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Old 20-12-08, 21:09   #65
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grega, drill and easy outs, good luck
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Arp exhaust studds ftw! I had them in my vlt and they never gave me grief and the manifold came off a couple times too
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Old 21-12-08, 10:19   #67
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In regards to the oil and water feeds/returns from engine to turbo, is there also a water Return? I've looked through the thread but have only seen oil feed & return and water feed mentioned. even the photo at the top only has those three on it???

also, 2YLD4U mentioned that the turbo camshaft is different to the n/a one. what spec would i need to look for when finding one to suit? cheers guys
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Old 21-12-08, 16:38   #68
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there is a water return - plumbs in on the inlet manifold side of the block.

BTW - something to be careful of - head bolt washers falling down the oil galleries into the sump. YES they can be retrieved with a magnetic pickup - MUCH patience needed though...

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NZ VL Com.........reco head is ready tomorrow. that tell you how successful my ezy-out adventure was
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Old 24-12-08, 23:27   #69
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hey I did the conversion, the injectors im running are slightly higher flowing than VLT, that what i was told ( merc ones or something) and when i plug up my VLT ECU it runs really rich and idles crap, but when i have my NA ECU in runs fine, why is this and would there be a way of running my turbo ECU without doing anything damage to my car. I'd like to keep my enigne this time round :P
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Old 25-12-08, 01:07   #70
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hey I did the conversion, the injectors im running are slightly higher flowing than VLT, that what i was told ( merc ones or something) and when i plug up my VLT ECU it runs really rich and idles crap, but when i have my NA ECU in runs fine, why is this and would there be a way of running my turbo ECU without doing anything damage to my car. I'd like to keep my enigne this time round :P
time for an aftermarket ecu
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aftermarket ECU if you're running non stock injectors. if they are the wrong impedance the ECU won't work correctly with them (and may burn out the ECU over time)

it sounds like (as you say they run ok with the NA ecu) they are slightly higher flowing that non VLT injectors...

either get new injectors (VLT) to suit your ECU or get a new aftermarket ECU

FWIW when i had my injectors checked 4 out of the 6 flowed fine, the other 2 were stuffed. so i replaced the whole lot with new ones (not cheap, $660) - but cheaper than a rebuild due to a lean out.

something else that i think is worthwhile doing is scraping the carbon off the top of the pistons. mine were badly carboned' up after 400,000km. now nice and clean. actually most of the top end is either new or cleaned up to be as good as new.
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Old 27-12-08, 18:54   #72
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its a fully recoed high comp engine, thing is even though the set up seems to be ok, i found out that half a tank of fuel was used up at around 85kms. this is no way normal.. i rather use my 308 right now.. anyone have VLT injectors for me?
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FWIW i HATE the bolt holding the oil feed banjo into the block

who does the braided turbo lines for oil and water. i want them. these solid lines are ****. 6 hours on one bolt and the ****er is STILL NOT ON

all done. it runs (kind of). i started mid friday arvo, 15 hours yesterday and 6 today. all up - a solid 24 hours worth of effort (one guy) plus it involved a head swap as well
my timing is out (by alot) - i counted 53 teeth but i think the dizzy is not centering correctly - i've marked cyl 1 on the dizzy housing but when i install the dizzy into the head, the rotor is pointing miles off cyl 1 and to drag it back to where it needs to be i then can't bolt the dizzy up...

but i broke my CAS plug so yeah not doing a whole heap of much of anything now....

PS : advice for doing up the oil feed bolt to the block - undo the fitting FROM the turbo first, then, do up the fitting on the block THEN do the fitting up on the top of the turbo. its a 13mm ring/open ender...
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FWIW new CAS plugs are available @ Bursons for $17

Also : the washers for the oil and turbo lines can be had from Bursons too : they are sump plug washers - the oil ones appear too large and sit outside the banjo but seal up fine. The water ones are a perfect replacement fit.
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Old 30-12-08, 07:55   #75
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Hi grega,

call ENZED, they have done all my lines in the past, including fittings....and its a mobile service, so they come out to the car...

hopew this helps.

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