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Old 29-12-08, 23:05   #51
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**** its new years on Thursday.. **** Andy, I wonder if thats gunna delay the delivery of ur sump... ?

Ahh well, hey let me know if u need a hand putting the inlet plenum or the rocker cover back on k.... I know it can all get a bit hard when u do a full house rebuild and everything gets washed away in the garage when it floods. I've got a box of spare nuts n bolts if u need any..
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Old 30-12-08, 07:34   #52
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I cant see why it wont make more than 400 RwHp, mine makes more than that on pump(586) and with the slight mod getting done this week and adding another 10 psi it should make even more again.........
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Old 30-12-08, 07:35   #53
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agh boys and girls , mum just rung me , toll priority just arrived and delivered the sump.

now i just need to weld on some speedflow fittings

johnny - do u take it back to dysons for tuning as bretto did , or have u got your own preffered tuner
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Old 30-12-08, 08:18   #54
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I cant see why it wont make more than 400 RwHp, mine makes more than that on pump(586) and with the slight mod getting done this week and adding another 10 psi it should make even more again.........

Am i driving this one down to dyno aswell hahaha
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Old 30-12-08, 08:57   #55
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agh boys and girls , mum just rung me , toll priority just arrived and delivered the sump.
Don't forget to look for those WG spring's for me andog, thanks champ.
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Old 30-12-08, 09:46   #56
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Am i driving this one down to dyno aswell hahaha
could be a chance as your the only one who drives like miss daisy
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Old 30-12-08, 11:04   #57
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Old 30-12-08, 16:03   #58
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I cant see why it wont make more than 400 RwHp, mine makes more than that on pump(586)
Yeh can only wait until it gets tuned then, hopefully racks off some big numbers..
Johnny, just to clarify, when we're talkin about pump fuel, I personally, and probably quite a few others are talkin straight pump - straight out of the bowser no additaves..

I know ur mix is predominantly pump fuel, but adding toluene to it.. in my books makes it no longer pump fuel.. its pump +plus+ as keith puts it lol
or alternatively - cheap C16 without the homologation.

Col, you can never have enought power on the street lol
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Old 30-12-08, 18:48   #59
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Yeh can only wait until it gets tuned then, hopefully racks off some big numbers..
Johnny, just to clarify, when we're talkin about pump fuel, I personally, and probably quite a few others are talkin straight pump - straight out of the bowser no additaves..

I know ur mix is predominantly pump fuel, but adding toluene to it.. in my books makes it no longer pump fuel.. its pump +plus+ as keith puts it lol
or alternatively - cheap C16 without the homologation.

Col, you can never have enought power on the street lol
yeah.........toluene or acetone..........gets a little tiring hearing i use "pump" fuel when most of us know better, but how does it go when the guys that don't know better see the power claims on here?? they start wondering what they have done wrong with there set-up when they only make 350rwhp instead of 500rwhp......they have done nothing wrong except believe the bull**** that gets banded about!
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Old 30-12-08, 19:56   #60
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I can see where you guy's are coming from with straight pump, yes I use Tol but I would say 99% of pump fuel cars run it or another type of additave, Mine is pump with Tol(I have never try to hide the fact) how much of it?
I never actually measure the amount that goes in to be able to give you the exact figure %, but i do know it still made around 440(15psi) on genuine straight pump,, I have never use C16 or anything else other Bp Ultimate,
I was told that PULP has Tol already in it when you buy it, just small amounts to make sure it's at the minimum ron, how true I'm not 100% . either way dont worry me pump or pump with tol is still using a ****ter fuel compare to a race fuel like C16
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Old 30-12-08, 20:06   #61
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where is my popcorn

i dont think people should compare there cars to other cars,to many variants,head work,tuners,dynos,cam setups

My combo made 480rwhp on straight pump,detuned to 430rwhp

pump..pump/tol..until there is thousands of dollars of prize money involved it does not matter if someone is on 80%nitro,or mower fuel or nankangs,et street radials

they are the hot topics in life on a forum

pump fuel and street tyres,i love it when it comes up
everyone has diffrent opinions and usually ends bad
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Old 30-12-08, 20:13   #62
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where is my popcorn

i dont think people should compare there cars to other cars,to many variants,head work,tuners,dynos,cam setups

My combo made 480rwhp on straight pump,detuned to 430rwhp

pump..pump/tol..until there is thousands of dollars of prize money involved it does not matter if someone is on 80%nitro,or mower fuel or nankangs,et street radials

they are the hot topics in life on a forum

pump fuel and street tyres,i love it when it comes up
everyone has diffrent opinions and usually ends bad

Never ends bad Maxpsi, it's like using water metho injection, not really using pump cause Methonal is about 120 ron so thats more than pump fuel.....
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Old 30-12-08, 20:59   #63
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where is my popcorn

i dont think people should compare there cars to other cars,to many variants,head work,tuners,dynos,cam setups

My combo made 480rwhp on straight pump,detuned to 430rwhp

pump..pump/tol..until there is thousands of dollars of prize money involved it does not matter if someone is on 80%nitro,or mower fuel or nankangs,et street radials

they are the hot topics in life on a forum

pump fuel and street tyres,i love it when it comes up
everyone has diffrent opinions and usually ends bad

guys will always compare there cars to the next car......thats just what guys do lol, I think the definition of "pump fuel" is pretty clear cut.......its is either pump fuel or home brew mix or race fuel........only one of them is truely"pump fuel" tho...... that was my point......is how people take whats written.... i have no problem with the use of toluene, i've used & will continue too.....no point blowing an engine chasing Hp on pump juice....as i said before i think 350rwhp is more then enough on the street (for me at least) 380rwhp is my upper limit on pump gas when i go after more i'll put some tol or roo16 in the tank!


sherif..............bp ultimate contains 2% toluene straight from the pump.......
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Old 30-12-08, 22:10   #64
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Never ends bad Maxpsi, it's like using water metho injection, not really using pump cause Methonal is about 120 ron so thats more than pump fuel.....
Not really...if you do a bit of reading, it will quickly become apparent that some of the big power cars (rotarys in particular) down south are using pump fuel, and water injection (WATER ONLY) and they're making plenty more than 500rwhp.. no methanol in the water..

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pump fuel and street tyres,i love it when it comes up
everyone has diffrent opinions and usually ends bad
I know wat you're saying Keith, but im still not really sure how people get confused and have such differeing opinions, it's pretty self explanatory
Pump fuel = pumped fuel from the bowser = no additaves
Street tyres = any tyre that is legally allowed to be driven on on the street

Now I know that some people will mention the point of a MT ET Street radial giving undeniably more traction than even the stickiest conventional 'street' tyre (18" nankang for example) but if ur budget allows, you could well and truly drive around on MT ET Streets everyday of the week and not have a worry in the world as to whether or not ur fudging street approval/legality. They are DOT approved and as long as they're packing legal tread, 100% street, exactly the same as ur legal tread depth Nankangs.

My point I guess then is that pump with toluene added, at any percentage, is not legal for the street, nor in any drag racing class as far as im aware, and it's not how you buy it from the pump..
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ah nankang what a tyre hahahaha..they have a new speed rating of 139mph
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Well if Pulp is 98octane when made by the time you buy it after sitting around it would not still be 98 it's most likely dropped abit..........Hence the reason I use tol to make sure it's at it's best and make it safe........... I would say that using tol is still pump fuel as it's in it from the manufacturer so why is it so bad when we add more to make it safer?............
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so why is it so bad when we add more to make it safer?............

i never said it was bad........just that in my humble opinion its not "pump fuel" toluene is good **** .........this may interest you........http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...tane_power.pdf

for every one else if you are going to use toluene BP ultimate is the fuel to use to mix it with as it has the lowest content of toluene from the refinery(shell uses 5% to reach 98ron compared to Bp @ 2%)
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i never said it was bad........just that in my humble opinion its not "pump fuel" toluene is good **** .........this may interest you........http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...tane_power.pdf

for every one else if you are going to use toluene BP ultimate is the fuel to use to mix it with as it has the lowest content of toluene from the refinery(shell uses 5% to reach 98ron compared to Bp @ 2%)
Very interesting, I know a few that say the Optimax is better due to it's more consitant in it fuel quality, but I use and will continue to use Ultimate..
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where do you get this toluene stuff from? or whats it found in.
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I have only ever used BP Ultimate in my VL. regardless of that it only runs 12 psi boost and a touch over 200 rwhp... I have found it to be a good fuel (expensive.. but good).
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where do you get this toluene stuff from? or whats it found in.

you can get it from some hardware stores & most fuel depots....... i normally buy it from bp, toluene is normally used as a solvent.
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I have allways run SHELL OPTIMAX/V-POWER. My car feels a bit lethargic on BP. Allso run Nulon additive which can be bought at most servos.(I only run it to save the valves and valve seats......officer.......lol)
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hahahaha thats due to ur inability to put added downward force to the go pedal , hahaha as whitey would sav "rev it"
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Well if Pulp is 98octane when made by the time you buy it after sitting around it would not still be 98 it's most likely dropped abit..........Hence the reason I use tol to make sure it's at it's best and make it safe........... I would say that using tol is still pump fuel as it's in it from the manufacturer so why is it so bad when we add more to make it safer?............
Well according to that doucment, toluene increases the fuels octane by 1 point per 5% added. So I guess it just depends how much you're adding for 'safety'.. because to be able to make 586rwhp on 'pump fuel' - I would imagine that you must be running a decent amount of toluene, and then it is arguable that you're not really using it for 'safety', due to being at the limit of the fuel in its natural state (in case u get a bad batch), but as an anti-knock additave to achieve in excess of 100rwhp+ of what u would make without the use of toluene..
To use toluene to bring the fuel back to its genuine 98octane rating, in the evnet that it has gone off from sitting for a while... you would be looking at probably only adding 6L or so to a tank...
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hahahaha thats due to ur inability to put added downward force to the go pedal , hahaha as whitey would sav "rev it"

Orrh don't worrie andy, ive seen adam rev the piss out of his thing...

Ive never use an addative in mine, (be good to see what it could do) keep in-mind ive never been interested in making big power from my car, i just love to cruise.

In saying that, you boy's are getting good result's from these mix's (tol, C16, addative's and Water inject) so why stop now and like col said, why would you put your engine in danger by not mixing it.
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