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Old 13-06-07, 22:57   #26
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vt's are ugly anyways , vl for sure
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Old 14-06-07, 11:12   #27
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the VT's are so much smoother to drive though, and if you can get the heavy buggers going 12's with little internal work then thats pretty good
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Old 14-06-07, 11:20   #28
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that vt looks nuts IMO... my mates got 1 we've fitted a 10.5psi pulley and 3 inch exhaust but the standard cats are letting it down now.. needs high flowers and a decent shift kit the auto feels like a wet sponge lol.. but they do go allright with minimal mods, a turbo one would be crazy
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Old 14-06-07, 14:56   #29
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i'll have to disagree with u on the stock tranny and diff cause if it is the fit turbo it got a 3.46 lsd and a fully rebuilt tranny to get it into the 11s!!!!!! it was doing 12.7 on the stock diff and tranny....
just checked and you're right!
2.4 60ft times yuk.. but yeah it has the MPH and the power, but the diff and weight do it no favours so if you want quicker times get a vl.. if u want a better car to actually drive go the VT-T.
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Old 17-06-07, 16:27   #30
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I'd love to see that with the bumper on.

I like it
hey mate this is what a vt with a cooler looks like with the front bar on

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Old 17-06-07, 18:07   #31
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just checked and you're right!
2.4 60ft times yuk.. but yeah it has the MPH and the power, but the diff and weight do it no favours so if you want quicker times get a vl.. if u want a better car to actually drive go the VT-T.
yeah mate i'm with u if u want to go fast get the vl and jsut for the misses get a vt onwards i have a vx and it's a great cruzing car but i'm doing up a fast one that is a bit different...
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hey mate this is what a vt with a cooler looks like with the front bar on


I agree with the plates ;P
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Old 17-06-07, 20:17   #33
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How is a VT nicer to drive? I've never found them remotely nice.
I musta missed something.....

Also, I'd rather have a S/C one if it had to be a 6. The idea of a turbo on a motor that feels **** to rev out doesn't appeal to me
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How is a VT nicer to drive? I've never found them remotely nice.
I musta missed something.....

Also, I'd rather have a S/C one if it had to be a 6. The idea of a turbo on a motor that feels **** to rev out doesn't appeal to me
can tell u only drive little japanese cars...
why would u need revs when u have massive torque in the lower rpms? check the video on that site i said b4 and watch how quick the car gets to 100.
and an ecotec not smooth?? theres a lot smoother engines out there, but compared to an rb30 u gotta be kidding. its not just the motor either... vt is better built, irs better steering e.t.c (as you would hope, being newer and all) drive both and try and say the VL is a better drive.
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Old 18-06-07, 00:34   #35
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can tell u only drive little japanese cars...
why would u need revs when u have massive torque in the lower rpms? check the video on that site i said b4 and watch how quick the car gets to 100.
and an ecotec not smooth?? theres a lot smoother engines out there, but compared to an rb30 u gotta be kidding. its not just the motor either... vt is better built, irs better steering e.t.c (as you would hope, being newer and all) drive both and try and say the VL is a better drive.
Who said anything about little japanese cars?? and whats wrong with them anyway? Maybe you've only driven HQ's, I don't know...

Every VT I've driven feels like a loose tank and yeah not smooth, although I'm comparing it to an RB25. and a well setup VL is a damn fun drive imo

Boosted ecotechs make good power n all, and I've been following it with some interest, but Meh... each to their own. I'd rather a nice LS1.
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Old 19-06-07, 17:22   #36
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Old 20-06-07, 01:06   #37
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depends, for looks i'd go the vl , but for newer more comfortable ride i'd go vt.

would rather ve ss 6L
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Old 20-06-07, 01:18   #38
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VTs are boats with IRS. Buy a 3.8L VS exec with live axle and whack a turbo on that!
pah!

VT's look less boaty than VS's though!

yuk

still, wouldnt mind seeing sum more turbo'd VT's
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fwoah wtf, in my opinion the base VT exec V6s are far 'nicer' cars to drive than even a calais model VL. My mate had one for years and i used to always borrow it for long trips, so comfy, so quiet inside, awesome air con, nice modern interior without trying to look overly star trek etc
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hey guys.. I found pics of a vy/vz turbo





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Old 20-06-07, 11:49   #41
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ill take either of those engine combos in a VB-VH!! w00 ha
VTs n **** are mad cruisers but bit large for my liking lol
either of those cars above would ***n hammer though
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Old 20-06-07, 13:51   #42
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the supercharger kits for the ecotecs seem to be getting nice power from the motor, it would be a cheaper and more tested route, but can you imagine the snap from the turbo, now that would be worth all that $$$ imo
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Old 20-06-07, 16:56   #43
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would look sick with the IRS aswell
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Old 20-06-07, 19:39   #44
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pah!

VT's look less boaty than VS's though!

yuk

still, wouldnt mind seeing sum more turbo'd VT's
Lmao, doesn't matter about the look mate, its the weight that's the issue. VS was the last of the live axle commodores.
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Old 21-06-07, 16:26   #45
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By the way... say you wanted a VL to do 10's... how much would it cost? and why will you need to spend more on a VT to get it into the 10's? Are VL's made for lightening fast speeds. Thanks. Any comments appreciated

-VLs; lighters. Better (cheaper, and more reliable,) drivetrain.
-Commodore V6's may aswell have been made out of straw they are that flimsy.
-Throw a rod as often as an oil change is made.
-Engine bay room; heat; reliablity.
-V6's are unreliable before they are modified.
-CAmshaft overlap of holden V6s means much after 3psi is useless on a standard motor.
-The beautiful 1953 Buick's design is rattly, inefficent, and ugly.
-The drivetrain is expensive, and fragile.
-Yet to mention the high illegality of a basic turbo setup on a v6.

And best of all;
Commodore IRS!!! HAHAHA!

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can tell u only drive little japanese cars...
why would u need revs when u have massive torque in the lower rpms? check the video on that site i said b4 and watch how quick the car gets to 100.
and an ecotec not smooth?? theres a lot smoother engines out there, but compared to an rb30 u gotta be kidding. its not just the motor either... vt is better built, irs better steering e.t.c (as you would hope, being newer and all) drive both and try and say the VL is a better drive.
HAHA!!! Better built? The vt was award winning when it was released. It is still winning awards; it recently won the most overated new car in austrlaia.
They are terrible. Ever been to a mechanics workshop? half of the cars are v6 commodores, with horrendously fuhhhked out powersteering; racks, pumps, low and high pressure hoses. 32,000 km old VY's (conveniantly out of holdens $hitty low km warranty) with dangerously bald scrubbed tyres, front and back.

Rev? hehk no
Low down torque? What the hell are you comparing it to?

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330rwkw on 20psi. internally stock engine except for rocker arms.
HAHA! that will last long. do you know what happens to a grenade after you pull the pin out, and let the handle go?

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sort of.. its the supercharged motor, the same motor found on the factory supercharged v6s.. as it was once supercharged. dead stock except like said for the higher ratio rocker arms. only difference internally afaik is the pistons, they're not forged but bit tougher and ceramic coated i believe, and the rods are a bit thicker.. the heads also have injector holes in different spots due to the supercharger manifold. u can do it to your normal ecotec tho, just just pistons and rods aftermarket and itll be even stronger.
So it's definately not stock then?

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VT for sure, those 3.8s are mental with a decent sized single turbo, such torquey motors and so responsive.

And that bay looks 10 times better than 90% of vl's on this site, the alternator might be ugly but at least it's ****ing neat lol.
Haha! this thread should be in comedy central. Funniest things i've read all day

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the auto feels like a wet sponge lol..
So it's a good one...



Ohh yes, much better car indeed. From it's cheap plastic interior, to there countless electrical problems, tendency to kill ecus, fuel pumps, oxy sensors, and throw rods. Or maybe it's the fat chicks arse styling.
Or maybe it is that classic 'recording-of-someone-throwing-up-slowed-down' exhaust note.

If i want a car that feels cheap and ****ty, i want one that is light, and cheap to repair, not high maintainence, low performance, uninspiring peice of engineering abomination.
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VLs; lighters. Better (cheaper, and more reliable,) drivetrain.
Commodore V6's may aswell have been made out of straw they are that flimsy.
Throw a rod as often as an oil change is made.
Engine bay room; heat; reliablity.
V6's are unreliable before they are modified.
CAmshaft overlap of holden V6s means much after 3psi is useless.
The beautiful 1953 Buick's design is rattly, inefficent, and ugly.
The drivetrain is expensive, and fragile.
Yet to mention the high illegality of a basic turbo setup on a v6.

And best of all;
Commodore IRS!!! HAHAHA!



HAHA!!! Better built? The vt was award winning when it was released. It is still winning awards; it recently won the most overated new car in austrlaia.
They are terrible. Ever been to a mechanics workshop? half of the cars are v6 commodores, with horrendously fuhhhked out powersteering; racks, pumps, low and high pressure hoses. 32,000 km old VY's (conveniantly out of holdens $hitty low km warranty) with dangerously bald scrubbed tyres, front and back.

Rev? hehk no
Low down torque? What the hell are you comparing it to?



HAHA! that will last long. do you know what happens to a grenade after you pull the pin out, and let the handle go?



So it's definately not stock then?



Haha! this thread should be in comedy central. Funniest things i've read all day


So it's a good one...



Ohh yes, much better car indeed. From it's cheap plastic interior, to there countless electrical problems, tendency to kill ecus, fuel pumps, oxy sensors, and throw rods. Or maybe it's the fat chicks arse styling.
Or maybe it is that classic 'recording-of-someone-throwing-up-slowed-down' exhaust note.

If i want a car that feels cheap and ****ty, i want one that is light, and cheap to repair, not high maintainence, low performance, uninspiring peice of engineering abomination.
Amen
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id agree with that,
plus they are but ugly
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Old 22-06-07, 00:57   #48
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hey everyone hrm... most here like VL's better.... VL's are very nice cars.. and very fast, but is there anyone here who would rather have a VT? both cars have pros, and cons. I guess its all about priorities in life
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ooohhh a bite


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HAHA!!! Better built? The vt was award winning when it was released. It is still winning awards; it recently won the most overated new car in austrlaia.
They are terrible. Ever been to a mechanics workshop? half of the cars are v6 commodores, with horrendously fuhhhked out powersteering; racks, pumps, low and high pressure hoses. 32,000 km old VY's (conveniantly out of holdens $hitty low km warranty) with dangerously bald scrubbed tyres, front and back.
they have problems sure... just like any other model, the beauty is commodores (and falcs) are cheap and parts easily sourced.

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Rev? hehk no
Low down torque? What the hell are you comparing it to?
everything? the v6s are as torquey as an 8 down low (sub2000rpm) if you're into japanese cars you wouldnt know what this means

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HAHA! that will last long. do you know what happens to a grenade after you pull the pin out, and let the handle go?
actually, its done something like 50-100 dyno pulls and multiple trips down the quarter, it was thrashed and tested when it was supercharged too before that turbo combo and the motor is still going fine today.


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So it's definately not stock then?
its a stock factory supercharged v6 bar the rocker arms that i mentioned.
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