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Old 10-09-09, 23:10   #1
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Warning to all those with painted whitewalls. Pics attached.

Just came back from helping a friend after a tire blew out on one of his wheels..


Before anyone jumps the gun, these are painted whitewalls that everyone gets, NOT porta wall of any sort, it was done by a regular no mention of any names because they all do it the same, and everyone gets the same result.


Due to the tire being shaved/grinded to paint the walls on the wheel blew out at 60KMH and he was able to stop without damaging the car or wheel, but for that matter imagine it at 100kmh +.. Would of been somewhat devastating.. Pictures below so you can all judge for yourself, no wonder the police has them now as defectable.

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If you have whitewalls or are thinking about getting them, think twice these were done by a professional it can happen to anyone.

Edit, I realize these are on the inside of the rim, walls were painted once before on that side and were rotated to get a different color on.

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Old 10-09-09, 23:13   #2
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to me that looks like the wrong load rated tire with a irs car that caused the tires inner side wall to give way?
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Old 10-09-09, 23:16   #3
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IM not sure what the load rating is, ill let the owner speak as he is on the forums, no names mentioned until he posts.

It was an IRS car yes.
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Old 10-09-09, 23:19   #4
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good spot on the i.r.s
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Old 10-09-09, 23:20   #5
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It could happen on a non IRS car thou, it was extra stress on the tires.. Anyways Im not arguing here, just warning you guys to be careful!
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Old 10-09-09, 23:22   #6
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so what happen he had white walls then swapped the tires around ?
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Old 10-09-09, 23:24   #7
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hmmm might have to get the portas after all... the place that does portas also does painting bogz, now im not so sure, was gonna get painted next week...
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Old 10-09-09, 23:24   #8
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its happen to a heap of my mates cars all with irs and cheap low profile tires without whitewalls. i highly doubt its got anything to do with the whitewall its self.
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Old 10-09-09, 23:29   #9
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wheres the white wall? has it worn off and he flipped the tyres on the rim? heaps of low proflie tyres crack on the side wall , causing them 2 blow out
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Old 10-09-09, 23:29   #10
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so what happen he had white walls then swapped the tires around ?

Yeah thats right ANK man

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hmmm might have to get the portas after all... the place that does portas also does painting bogz, now im not so sure, was gonna get painted next week...

Yeah do portas man, and they look cool!

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its happen to a heap of my mates cars all with irs and cheap low profile tires without whitewalls. i highly doubt its got anything to do with the whitewall its self.

Look I dont know the facts or what kind of tires they were. Whatever Like I said IM JUST warning people to be careful. Surely Cutting tire out weakens the tire.. Id put money on it.
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Old 10-09-09, 23:43   #11
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as much as grooving out the tyre wall weakens them, if you have ever actually changed a tyre yourself, you would know the pressure put onto the wall by the machine, even on 17s its very harsh which are the largest ive changed so i can only imagine it gets worse the lower the profile. and thats brand new tyres.

so imagine when your using compressed air to push a thin piece of metal to push in across a very thin tyre wall of an old weathered tyre thats already had the wall weakend before hand . . . . i think that has more to do with it than the original wall being done itself. just a thought bogz man
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Old 10-09-09, 23:48   #12
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whos genuine ve gts's bogz?
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Old 11-09-09, 00:01   #13
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Man I wish they were mine. The owner will post sooner or later with more facts / details.


Trent Yeah I see what you mean however...... hmm
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Old 11-09-09, 00:10   #14
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just STFU bogs and give me your calais rims with the porta walls NOW <3
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Old 11-09-09, 01:28   #15
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white walls have been around for years and this is the first time ive ever heard of a tyre blow from a white wall (if thats the case, which i highly doubt).

unless the guy that done the whitewalls was that dumb to grind half way through the profile...

i wouldnt worry about it... painted whitewalls ftw! screw the porta loo ones
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Old 11-09-09, 01:58   #16
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i am the one whos wheel and tyre this is.
Yes it is IRS.
No its not a cheap tyre.
And if i didnt have the walls on both sides of the tyre it wouldnt have blown out like this.
Ive seen blow outs on some tyres from camber and this wasnt that.
Simply the tyre has been grinded so i rotated the tyres and from it being so thin the profile.
it has caused this problem, front ones are fine, just the rear from the stress of the camber.
But definatly be careful because as bogz said if i was doing 100 and it blew.
DEAD **** i would have been.
also THEY ARE NOW PROVEN ILLEGAL by ever police officer in melbourne, i have links with moorabin and glen eira tmu. and trust me its illegal no matter what u say or do. weather its on a 15inch or a 26 inch.
look only because i had camber is what caused it, but beside the point. alot of VS-VZs have walls these days with camber.
Leave it with u guys
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Old 11-09-09, 07:17   #17
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Louie eat me.

I checked the tires this morning, they are Falken Tires. Beside the point.. There was more strain put on the tires cause of the IRS and such, however if they were not shaved for whitewalls this would not have occurred


I love it how the majority of you are trying to defend whitewalls and such and counter arguing with me. Grow up you grind something out of a tired its going to go one day if you like it or not, IRS or no IRS.

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Old 11-09-09, 08:30   #18
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Bogz, was it a front or rear tyre? And what sort of tread is left on them?, And, being IRS, and possibly lowered - how low?
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portas are gayyyyyyyy they where "ok" on jc car but im not sure if it was the 10 sec pass the car had that made them ok but there ghayyyyy
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I highly, highly doubt this had anything to do with the walls.
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So the fact that there was tire ground out for whitewall purposes does not hurt the tire one bit?

If so I have made a fail thread.
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I wouldn't think so man when i had mine done the amount they ground out was about 1mm.


Blow outs happen that's life. IRS and camber doesn't help.
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Suppose, I had a look at these and there was a fair bit ground out, that why I thought it was the walls, theres decent rubber missing on the tire where the walls lived, the IRS doesnt help at all extra stress that the tire doesnt need. EVen thou with a good tire it can happen.
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Old 11-09-09, 09:22   #24
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i understand what Raptor is saying and there's truth that it propably does weaken the side walls... but i dont think its enough to make a properly load rated tyre blow out like that
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I can't see how it'd make it blow out either, a sidewall isn't the last line of defence, if anything the sidewall is the barrier that can take the abuse. It protects the inner linings and belts of the tyres.

I think somebody needs to get an old tyre and chop it in half and measure it. Or people with walls that haven't failed, have a good look for signs of stress or any cracks, wearing, warping that's happening.

I fail to see how overly stretching a tyre, under inflating, overinflating, using tyre shine, or driving a car with gutter rashed wheels and tyres is any different.

I had a brand new tyre fail on me, it had developed a leak, and went down, I was at the servo when it was about 1/2 capacity, pumped it back up, leak stopped, but damage was already done to the tyre, couldn't see it on the outside, but it had warped and was wearing on the inside.

1 tyre out of however many are out and about - with tyres blowing out all the time worldwide, I'm not jumping to conclusions here.

I might swing a few emails off to some tyre manufacturers later today and see if I can get a response.
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