Calais Turbo

351 · 01-07-04, 11:24

New VZ SS... ALREADY?

It seems Holden is definitely struggling with the VY series.

A good quality car doesn't need to be updated very often. Just look at European and Japanese cars, they're updated far less then any American or Australian built cars. This is also one reason why Japanese cars keep their value so much better, because new models aren't released every few months, unlike Holden's Commodore range.

This if what Ford did with the AU Series Falcon. AU, AUII & AUIII in a short space of time. Holden is now doing the same, which may create hype & publicity, but at the end of the day, it just shows Holden's quality isn't as good as it maybe should be.

Looks good, none the less.

Morgz · 01-07-04, 11:32

Yeah it's a shame holden bring out models so close together, must cost em a fortune in design and parts remanuacturing.
It's doesn't look very different from a VY, but I spose holden always bring cars out and leave the same basic shape for 2 models: VN/VP VR/VS VT/VX VY/VZ.
Why would anyone buy a new car? when you only have to wait a year and get something similar for 2/3's the price.

At least Holden have some order to their naming, Ford like EL, AU, BA.
LOL. They must just pick letters out of a hat or something. :P

CHAYSR · 01-07-04, 11:40

When is it supposed to be released??

New V6 will be nice!

New V8??

Stocs101 · 01-07-04, 11:40

Almost looks like a mazda 6.......well the front and the rims do

ITSGMH · 01-07-04, 11:57

is it just me or is the front of that Commo looking more like a BMW?

Series2VL · 01-07-04, 12:23

weren't holden gonna bring out a new turbo straight six or did i have an optimistic dream?

I swear to god the XR6T will be the next VL unless holden do something...

Injection · 01-07-04, 12:23

what lets this shape doen the most is the carry over VT roof. Doesn't fir the squarer shape of the rest of the panels.

Bring on the new VE.

Morgz · 01-07-04, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injection

what lets this shape doen the most is the carry over VT roof. Doesn't fir the squarer shape of the rest of the panels.

Bring on the new VE.

LOL, What????
I hope you dont speak like that in person dude. LOL.

vlt-dreamer · 01-07-04, 13:02

i know - someone smack some english into him!

The VE is the next car form holden after vz, there going to go through the letters that haven;t been used, e,f,i,j,m,o, etc.

I think the front looks like the ba front - have a look at 351's avatar then look at the forntal pic of the vz.

darklord · 01-07-04, 13:35

i'm wondering if they'll make a VD series

Morgz · 01-07-04, 13:37

I'm looking forward to the stinking BO Ford Falcon! hehe

240kw's of sweaty goodness! LOL

Loud'nLow · 01-07-04, 14:12

Strong rumours suggest turbo HFV6 for the new Commodore, hmmmmmmmmmmm... a new age turbo calais, I'll have a white one thanks...

Morgz · 01-07-04, 14:17

Yeah new HFV6 plant down in fishermans bend.
LOL more than just rumours.

CHAYSR · 01-07-04, 14:30

Turbo HFV6....... Mmmmmmmmmm...

N/A models have a claimed 190kw standard....

***DROOLS***

OldGold · 01-07-04, 15:25

looks like a mazda, that thing on the front guard is very BMW, it reminds me of a BA in profile.

*shrug* I don't like it, but it's all been downhill since they stopped making LX Toranas IMHO, with the VL being the only bright spot

dragme · 01-07-04, 15:37

Yeh i don't think i would ever buy a new car, just my view on it. I hate the VY Commodore and don't like the look of VZ either. VT and VX looked nice in my opinion. The VY HSV cars look nice but there such a rip off. Monaro is the nicest car their making at the moment for a fraction of the cost of an R8 or something like that. Apparently Holden are releasing at the end of this year or start of next year the new V8 being called the LS2 motor. Apparently its going to be 6.2L and most problery will be used in the HSV GTS or clubsport before it reaches SS commodores, etc. Apparently the next R8 is going to have 300kw, which means their might be something drastic planned for the overpriced GTS or it might seize to be produced with the GTS having to be ordered then made these days. Holden are releasing finally the new V6 which is supposed to be good with better fuel economy and power planned. Just have to see although i'm not that intrested in the things, overpriced and don't go that well.

Injection · 01-07-04, 17:36

apart from the typos, I was referring to the fact that the VY (and now VZ) still have the same round roof design as the VT/VX and it's the wrong shape for the squarer panels on these models. Looks pretty clear to me (typo's aside) what I was saying and hasn't anyone else noticed that the roof shape hasn't changed since VT??

So who's gonna be first up to "smack some english" into me?? lol. bring it on.

coastvl · 01-07-04, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldGold

looks like a mazda, that thing on the front guard is very BMW, it reminds me of a BA in profile.

*shrug* I don't like it, but it's all been downhill since they stopped making LX Toranas IMHO, with the VL being the only bright spot

Yeah thats about right. I wouldn't say no to any new commo though. My sister has a VX ss and it's ok. Not worth the dosh new but.

jet25l · 01-07-04, 23:43

It kind of looks like a subaru. But if it's got a
commodore badge on it that is good enouf for me.

Sinister · 02-07-04, 14:54

dont think much of it... but i had the same view when the vy got released.... then i saw a black VY Calais

then a black VY SS, then a clubby e.t.c

XCTMNT · 02-07-04, 18:15

Quote:

At least Holden have some order to their naming, Ford like EL, AU, BA.
LOL. They must just pick letters out of a hat or something. :P

ill rate that, ive always thought this

XCTMNT · 02-07-04, 18:18

Quote:

Yeah it's a shame holden bring out models so close together, must cost em a fortune in design and parts remanuacturing.
It's doesn't look very different from a VY, but I spose holden always bring cars out and leave the same basic shape for 2 models: VN/VP VR/VS VT/VX VY/VZ.
Why would anyone buy a new car? when you only have to wait a year and get something similar for 2/3's the price.

As PSHHHT stated here the models are the same shape, but also every second pair is the same body also, VB,VC/VK and VL were all the same body as were the VN,VP,VR,VS its just the guards and light etc. that were changed,

i hope im right lol

same as the AU series and BA's all the same doors etc

Some Bored Dude · 02-07-04, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldGold

looks like a mazda, that thing on the front guard is very BMW, it reminds me of a BA in profile.

*shrug* I don't like it, but it's all been downhill since they stopped making LX Toranas IMHO, with the VL being the only bright spot

Too true... apparently, since remaking the monaro, rumor is that once there finished making commodores, there gonna start re making toranas

wagonshaw · 02-07-04, 18:40

dont like it one bit. i thought the au's looked disgusting and these vz's arent to far from it.

351 · 02-07-04, 19:06

I reckon it looks alright.

However, Commodores and Falcons are losing their uniqueness. They're looking more and more like European style cars every model.

01-07-04, 11:24	#1
351 Player Join Date: 20-09-02 Location: VIC, Melbourne Car: Hyundai Excel w/ Body Kit Trader Rating: (0)	VZ Commodore Pictures New VZ SS... ALREADY? It seems Holden is definitely struggling with the VY series. A good quality car doesn't need to be updated very often. Just look at European and Japanese cars, they're updated far less then any American or Australian built cars. This is also one reason why Japanese cars keep their value so much better, because new models aren't released every few months, unlike Holden's Commodore range. This if what Ford did with the AU Series Falcon. AU, AUII & AUIII in a short space of time. Holden is now doing the same, which may create hype & publicity, but at the end of the day, it just shows Holden's quality isn't as good as it maybe should be. Looks good, none the less. __________________ HSV - I just shut one! Last edited by 351; 01-07-04 at 11:30.

01-07-04, 11:32	#2
Morgz ft long member Join Date: 28-01-04 Location: VIC, Ballarat Car: Trader Rating: (25)	Yeah it's a shame holden bring out models so close together, must cost em a fortune in design and parts remanuacturing. It's doesn't look very different from a VY, but I spose holden always bring cars out and leave the same basic shape for 2 models: VN/VP VR/VS VT/VX VY/VZ. Why would anyone buy a new car? when you only have to wait a year and get something similar for 2/3's the price. At least Holden have some order to their naming, Ford like EL, AU, BA. LOL. They must just pick letters out of a hat or something. :P __________________ Dont fool yourself, your a bloody idiot

01-07-04, 11:40	#4
Stocs101 Dr Danglybits Join Date: 23-10-02 Location: Perth, NOR Car: 05 Z Series Clubsport STOLEN - 05 SSZ UTE FLOODED - 88 vlct 5spd wagon REBUILDING Trader Rating: (5)	Almost looks like a mazda 6.......well the front and the rims do __________________ you just got killed by a daewoo lanos muthaphuckaaaahhh

01-07-04, 11:57	#5
ITSGMH and...? Join Date: 09-02-04 Location: Melbourne, Sold the VL :-( Car: 5 litres of Holden Goodness... Trader Rating: (8)	is it just me or is the front of that Commo looking more like a BMW? __________________ There is only one King - long live the King. 05.

01-07-04, 12:23	#7
Injection Official Member Join Date: 28-05-02 Location: Perth, WA Car: VS III Grange #153 Trader Rating: (1)	what lets this shape doen the most is the carry over VT roof. Doesn't fir the squarer shape of the rest of the panels. Bring on the new VE. __________________ http://www.brockcommodores.com - Home of the HDT Commodore. VSIII Grange #153

01-07-04, 11:40	#3
CHAYSR Still here... Join Date: 16-06-03 Location: Melbourne, Eastside Car: VLT, VT 9C1, YZ250 Trader Rating: (2)	When is it supposed to be released?? New V6 will be nice! New V8??

01-07-04, 12:23	#6
Series2VL Player Join Date: 02-03-04 Location: International, Back in Melbourne Car: Black/Charcoal S2 VR Trader Rating: (2)	weren't holden gonna bring out a new turbo straight six or did i have an optimistic dream? I swear to god the XR6T will be the next VL unless holden do something...

01-07-04, 13:02	#9
vlt-dreamer Player Join Date: 27-06-03 Location: Melbourne, Northern Victoria Car: Black Territory Trader Rating: (64)	i know - someone smack some english into him! The VE is the next car form holden after vz, there going to go through the letters that haven;t been used, e,f,i,j,m,o, etc. I think the front looks like the ba front - have a look at 351's avatar then look at the forntal pic of the vz. __________________ Too old for VL's now...:(

01-07-04, 13:35	#10
darklord Player Join Date: 24-02-03 Location: VIC, Gippsland Car: VT Berlina :( Trader Rating: (4)	i'm wondering if they'll make a VD series __________________ http://www.ultimatephysique.com.au/ Fitness Forum Online Store! Best Prices in Australia!

01-07-04, 13:37	#11
Morgz ft long member Join Date: 28-01-04 Location: VIC, Ballarat Car: Trader Rating: (25)	I'm looking forward to the stinking BO Ford Falcon! hehe 240kw's of sweaty goodness! LOL __________________ Dont fool yourself, your a bloody idiot

01-07-04, 14:12	#12
Loud'nLow Player Join Date: 21-01-04 Location: NSW, Mid North Coast Car: '87 Calais N/A - currently converting Trader Rating: (0)	Strong rumours suggest turbo HFV6 for the new Commodore, hmmmmmmmmmmm... a new age turbo calais, I'll have a white one thanks... __________________ Jesus titty fu<king christ

01-07-04, 14:17	#13
Morgz ft long member Join Date: 28-01-04 Location: VIC, Ballarat Car: Trader Rating: (25)	Yeah new HFV6 plant down in fishermans bend. LOL more than just rumours. __________________ Dont fool yourself, your a bloody idiot

01-07-04, 14:30	#14
CHAYSR Still here... Join Date: 16-06-03 Location: Melbourne, Eastside Car: VLT, VT 9C1, YZ250 Trader Rating: (2)	Turbo HFV6....... Mmmmmmmmmm... N/A models have a claimed 190kw standard.... *DROOLS*

01-07-04, 15:25	#15
OldGold Moderator Join Date: 19-06-02 Location: WA, Represent Car: Trader Rating: (12)	looks like a mazda, that thing on the front guard is very BMW, it reminds me of a BA in profile. shrug I don't like it, but it's all been downhill since they stopped making LX Toranas IMHO, with the VL being the only bright spot

01-07-04, 15:37	#16
dragme Player Join Date: 19-06-02 Location: Sydney, Wollongong Car: Vl berlina turbo. Honda civic 1990 (daily) Trader Rating: (0)	Yeh i don't think i would ever buy a new car, just my view on it. I hate the VY Commodore and don't like the look of VZ either. VT and VX looked nice in my opinion. The VY HSV cars look nice but there such a rip off. Monaro is the nicest car their making at the moment for a fraction of the cost of an R8 or something like that. Apparently Holden are releasing at the end of this year or start of next year the new V8 being called the LS2 motor. Apparently its going to be 6.2L and most problery will be used in the HSV GTS or clubsport before it reaches SS commodores, etc. Apparently the next R8 is going to have 300kw, which means their might be something drastic planned for the overpriced GTS or it might seize to be produced with the GTS having to be ordered then made these days. Holden are releasing finally the new V6 which is supposed to be good with better fuel economy and power planned. Just have to see although i'm not that intrested in the things, overpriced and don't go that well. __________________ Definition of embarrassment... Running into a wall with an errection and breaking your nose first.

01-07-04, 17:36	#17
Injection Official Member Join Date: 28-05-02 Location: Perth, WA Car: VS III Grange #153 Trader Rating: (1)	apart from the typos, I was referring to the fact that the VY (and now VZ) still have the same round roof design as the VT/VX and it's the wrong shape for the squarer panels on these models. Looks pretty clear to me (typo's aside) what I was saying and hasn't anyone else noticed that the roof shape hasn't changed since VT?? So who's gonna be first up to "smack some english" into me?? lol. bring it on. __________________ http://www.brockcommodores.com - Home of the HDT Commodore. VSIII Grange #153

01-07-04, 23:43	#19
jet25l Official Member Join Date: 07-10-03 Location: Sydney, Northern Beaches Car: Trader Rating: (3)	It kind of looks like a subaru. But if it's got a commodore badge on it that is good enouf for me.

02-07-04, 14:54	#20
Sinister Player Join Date: 20-01-04 Location: Melbourne, Melbourne west Car: Zonda, Maybach, Koenigsegg, Veyron daily... Trader Rating: (4)	dont think much of it... but i had the same view when the vy got released.... then i saw a black VY Calais then a black VY SS, then a clubby e.t.c

02-07-04, 18:40	#24
wagonshaw \x/estside for life Join Date: 10-04-04 Location: NSW, newcastle Car: mine Trader Rating: (2)	dont like it one bit. i thought the au's looked disgusting and these vz's arent to far from it. __________________ CT \x/ESTSIDE REPREZENT

02-07-04, 19:06	#25
351 Player Join Date: 20-09-02 Location: VIC, Melbourne Car: Hyundai Excel w/ Body Kit Trader Rating: (0)	I reckon it looks alright. However, Commodores and Falcons are losing their uniqueness. They're looking more and more like European style cars every model. __________________ HSV - I just shut one!