Can anyone point me in the right direction for a dry sump setup. I doing some homework for my car. Link's etc would be a good help. :cool:

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cheers man

dont ask me,i only know your looking at about 5 grand for a stage 5 set up as for what they actually do,i have no idea.

i suggest you speak to 6boost,he is a dr in this field

whats wrong with just getting a good JUN pump and a good sump setup?????

damn u richie if u get a dry sump.. asif u car needs to get any better u rat!

whats wrong with just getting a good JUN pump and a good sump setup?????

damn u richie if u get a dry sump.. asif u car needs to get any better u rat!


^^^^^ LOL too funny!!

I have both external wet pump and dry sump setups, I'd advise that if your just drag racing and no circuit work, then go just the wet pump, its basically a dry sump system, it has the same scavenge and pressure section as a dry sump, it just still uses the sump as the "tank" rather than an external tank. If you already have a good sump, an external oil pump setup is about $2500-$2700 with a 1000hp ATI balancer, drive kit, pulleys, belts, billet brackets, pump etc, you'd just need to run a few lines.

A dry sump setup would have a minimum 4 stages, 3 suction and 1 pressure, you have 2 in the sump, 1 in the back of the head, plus pressure side. Its about $5500-6k with lines, and offers little to no benifits other than greater oil capacity fr anything but high G cornering and track work. There is 6 second cars running a wet sump setup still.

Either way, I can point you in the right directions if you'd like to collect the parts yourself as well.

Regards......................6BOOST

l got a stage 6 and it cost me around the 3g mark

l got a stage 6 and it cost me around the 3g mark


Why did you get stage 6 for??? your not going to need it......

I have both external wet pump and dry sump setups, I'd advise that if your just drag racing and no circuit work, then go just the wet pump, its basically a dry sump system, it has the same scavenge and pressure section as a dry sump, it just still uses the sump as the "tank" rather than an external tank. If you already have a good sump, an external oil pump setup is about $2500-$2700 with a 1000hp ATI balancer, drive kit, pulleys, belts, billet brackets, pump etc, you'd just need to run a few lines.

A dry sump setup would have a minimum 4 stages, 3 suction and 1 pressure, you have 2 in the sump, 1 in the back of the head, plus pressure side. Its about $5500-6k with lines, and offers little to no benifits other than greater oil capacity fr anything but high G cornering and track work. There is 6 second cars running a wet sump setup still.

Either way, I can point you in the right directions if you'd like to collect the parts yourself as well.

Regards......................6BOOST


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Thanks 6boost champion , i will be in touch.

i have a 6 stage pump for sale needs new seals but

l got a stage 6 and it cost me around the 3g mark

I would also like to know this, as a 1000hp ATI balancer is about $850, peterson pump $1600ish, spline drive kit $200, pulleys $270, then you have bracket, tank and about $2000 worth of lines and fittings. Not saying it can't be done, last time I spoke to you you were talking about getting a braided line kit out of the states or something, that, with the stock balancer or cheaper alternative, home made drive and brackets and a second hand V8 supercar pump and you might get the price down to 3-4k, but it would be a big ask, not everyone is as resourceful and lucky as you;)

6BOOST

it can be done for cheaper but with a second hand pump and if you can get the tank in the engine bay you can reduce the amount of speedflow by a heap.

it can be done for cheaper but with a second hand pump and if you can get the tank in the engine bay you can reduce the amount of speedflow by a heap. Mine all up cost 3-4K but with a lot of home made stuff and a v8 supercar pump and most of that was speedflow

l got a stage 6 and it cost me around the 3g mark
let every one see some pictures of your car and your manifolds and your dry sump set up and what about some dyno figures and then ill make something negetive to say about you and your car,:mad:

let every one see some pictures of your car and your manifolds and your dry sump set up and what about some dyno figures and then ill make something negetive to say about you and your car,:mad:

haha mate your trying to pick something with the wrong guy lol

pigsy has built just about everything on his car
manifold, motor, head, wiring, cooler pipes, dump pipe, you name it
and its making over 500rwhp thru an auto on low boost and a very light tune with not very much timing and on pump fuel
all from a single cammer

the car has ALOT more left in it

also i very much doubt he gives a sh1t what any1else thinks about his car as he knows he has built it himself and it goes very very well!

ive just done a dry sump system on my vl, let me know what you need i can help you out.

I would also like to know this, as a 1000hp ATI balancer is about $850, peterson pump $1600ish, spline drive kit $200, pulleys $270, then you have bracket, tank and about $2000 worth of lines and fittings. Not saying it can't be done, last time I spoke to you you were talking about getting a braided line kit out of the states or something, that, with the stock balancer or cheaper alternative, home made drive and brackets and a second hand V8 supercar pump and you might get the price down to 3-4k, but it would be a big ask, not everyone is as resourceful and lucky as you;)

6BOOST
already had the ati kyle mine was $950 like 2.5 yrs ago wen they 1st came out bracket cost me like $12 to make l'm not gona say wat it cost me for the rest but it was under 2g. l just found the rite blokes in the us for line and the stuff l needed and my pump is rated higher than a peterson pump

let every one see some pictures of your car and your manifolds and your dry sump set up and what about some dyno figures and then ill make something negetive to say about you and your car,:mad:
ur from the jiont richie gets his car tuned yes

ur from the jiont richie gets his car tuned yes[/QUOTE]


No he is not. He builds my car. Doesnt work for any workshop. All done from his shed......
:cool:

haha mate your trying to pick something with the wrong guy lol

pigsy has built just about everything on his car
manifold, motor, head, wiring, cooler pipes, dump pipe, you name it
and its making over 500rwhp thru an auto on low boost and a very light tune with not very much timing and on pump fuel
all from a single cammer

the car has ALOT more left in it

also i very much doubt he gives a sh1t what any1else thinks about his car as he knows he has built it himself and it goes very very well!


Well what do you call low boost? I m not trying to start anything, its just we get our backs up whenever i post something up about what i am doing to my car and what we are trying to get out of it....... and all me hear is negative comments "Like your manifold is **** , the dyno is not on the right setting etc" For one NO one on here has seen my manifold! So dont comment on something you ALL dont know about! Second of all dont know someone out there trying to push the development of the VL!!!! I never knock anyone's car on here. Thats the hole reason why i joined up to calais turbo .com to show everyone out there my car. If you dont like it then dont comment on it. Simple!

i love your car
anyone that can get a 26/30 to work properly is doing a great job
and your pushing it even further by going to an 88mm turbo which i dont think anyone has done on a street vl here in aus

i remember seeing your car at trickweld a few years back, thats the 1st and only time i have seen it lol

also i think he is making it at under 20lb

goodluck with it mate
dry sumps are a good idea i think, if your going for reliability and big revs

ur from the jiont richie gets his car tuned yes


No he is not. He builds my car. Doesnt work for any workshop. All done from his shed......
:cool:




Well what do you call low boost? I m not trying to start anything, its just we get our backs up whenever i post something up about what i am doing to my car and what we are trying to get out of it....... and all me hear is negative comments "Like your manifold is **** , the dyno is not on the right setting etc" For one NO one on here has seen my manifold! So dont comment on something you ALL dont know about! Second of all dont know someone out there trying to push the development of the VL!!!! I never knock anyone's car on here. Thats the hole reason why i joined up to calais turbo .com to show everyone out there my car. If you dont like it then dont comment on it. Simple![/QUOTE]
l do wish u al the best richie l did appologize for the manifold comment. and wen u have spoken to tunners from all over the world its wat l have been told, so l wont take back that statement but as it is said the track will tell all. its a pitty u didnt take it to the track before up grading if ur mate wants to see my sry sump set l,m happy for him to have alook if he wants to copy any thing

I think we are going to give the Dry sump a miss. We are going a different path in that setup. Pully style we think.

As i said , i wish i could have taken it to the track on the last setup. The only reason i get rid of the T51r is coz Mark offered me a good deal on a billet turbo.

If the Head Gasket didnt blow, i would have taken it to the track.

Clean thing's up .... the head gasket went on it from the Thermo fan broke one time. then the second time the fulse broke. Over heated.

This is the last setup on the car.

so wens ur head going down to robs

so wens ur head going down to robs


I was ment to take it down the other day. i am just holding off till the turbo comes back, with the manifold fixed. So we can dummy everything up. So i think in a few weeks now. I have a set or JUN cams to go it. They came out of my mate GTR33. He is not sure of the size , so i have to take them to a cam shop to see if they are suitable for the job.

offers little to no benifits other than greater oil capacity fr anything but high G cornering and track work. There is 6 second cars running a wet sump setup still.
Exactly. We get fewer drag racing guys calling for dry sump setups (apart from Group 1 racers, mega power cars etc), compared to the guys racing sprint cars, circuit cars etc.

So if 1500hp+ 6sec and 7sec cars can use wet setups reliably, i'm pretty sure they will do just fine for 700hp+ VLs ;)

Sorry for the thread dig

I'm kind of stalled with my torana 26/30 at the moment still due to height issues with the 30 block.

I DO NOT want to cut the bonnet in any way. The only other bloke i've spoken to thats pulled it off has an external pickup setup thats still hard up for clearance.

I already know the advantages of a dry sump setup just wanting to find out from people what kind of clearance they end up with at the bottom.

my pan is around 4" deep but I didnt go for clearanceso you could prob go less

You can do it in an inch, Call Retractable Tarps in brisbane and ask for Michael, he makes them, they have a dry sumped circuit RB and he's made multiple pans for their own car and others, they are very shallow and well priced, they can probably help you with bracketry and advise as well. Tell him Kyle from 6boost told you to call him.

6BOOST

my sump wen my mate and l made it went fron 3'' to 4''l have 5 filter screens on each pick up

mine looks like this, u can see i havent gained any real room, i think osk was selling one that would suit you(its much flatter).
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6/img0182rh.jpg

i got two new peterson r4 5stage bellhousing mounted pumps that i was thinking of sellin if anyone is interested.

I have the one OSK was selling now, its flat as, around 2 inches including fittings. I need alot more info on setting up a dry sump if anyone has time to spare that can type out the important bits for me. I have a external wet sump pump now, and moroso do a pump that mounts and drives exactly the same as what I have now, but I have no idea what stage pump I need, what the benifits of having an extra suction section is or any real idea. Any help very much appreciated.

IF you want/need a dry sump, u'd want a 4 or 5 stage system, 2 or 3 pickups in the pan, 1 in the valley and the pressure stage.
Some say they have seen gains in hp from just fitting a dry sump, but mainly its to prevent oil starvation, cavitation and related issues.

seeing as you hare OSK's pan, then u'd get a 4 stage.

i like this video of a porsche drysump'd engine test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBhq4hu4E78